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Old 05-06-2009, 07:32 PM
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help ip timing

trying to time by the drip method DIY. been trying to get to the 4th bolt on the back of the ip to loosen it for like an hour now. starting to get frustrated. any advice on getting at it good.

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Old 05-06-2009, 08:01 PM
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I used a standard 13mm Craftsman wrench to get at mine. It turns only a fraction of an inch each time due to clearance problems. Just be patient and turn it a little at a time.

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Old 05-07-2009, 07:44 AM
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X3, patience grasshopper!

Sometimes removing the rack damper bolt helps.
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:47 AM
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DIY shows getting at that bolt from the top. I could not do it. I was able to get it from the side in between the oil cooler lines with a stubby 13mm open end wrench.
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:51 AM
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This is the 85? The rack sensor is right in the way to hit that nut.
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Old 05-07-2009, 08:33 AM
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This is the 85? The rack sensor is right in the way to hit that nut.
yes 85 Cali. but thats not the bolt i was having issues with. i could get to the one under the rack sensor with socket and short extension. It was the bolt in the rear, attaching it to the mounting bracket that was a total PITA. had to cut the box end off a cheapy 13mm so I could get to it from in between the oil cooler lines and have room to turn it. Maybe could get to it from the top with a really long 13mm wrench. Done now. Set to 26* looking forward to some increased mpg hopefully !
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:19 AM
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Maybe could get to it from the top with a really long 13mm wrench.
I had to modify a long 13mm box wrench for this task. The head of that bolt needs a slight offset forward to put the top of the wrench right between the pump and the oil filter housing. An offset of about 1" worked well. The rack damper bolt had to be removed as well otherwise there is no room to swing the wrench.
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:26 AM
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A fine tooth ratchet wrench is ideal for this job.

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Old 05-07-2009, 09:37 AM
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A fine tooth ratchet wrench is ideal for this job.
tried that. not enough room to get the ratcheting box end on to the bolt head. At least not on my 85.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:00 AM
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Mine and another member's '85 are completely missing this rear mount. I wouldn't be surprised if they are completely removed at dealerships or MB service stations.

try going directly for the bolts that go into the block.

or, once all the other bolts are loosened... it should easily rotate with some force... it might actually help control your movements when you are doing the actual deed.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:27 AM
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When I did mine I cheated.
looking up from down below you can see the lower part of the rear IP Bracket that has 2 bolts that bolt the bracket onto the Engine Block.
I removed those 2 bolts.
When I rotated the IP towards the Engine Block to advance the timing the Bracket below rotated away from the Engine Block.
When I was done timing the IP I went down below with a Punch and Hammer and tapped the bracket back against the block. Tapping the Bracket back that direction would tend to loosen the 1 Bolt to the rear of the IP. I re-installed the 2 Bracket Bolts and was done.
I did not bother to try to tighten the 1 rear IP bolt.
For better or worse that is what I did.

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