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My new air box, THE TRUE COLD AIR INTAKE!!!
I purchaced a 1995 Buick Leseber air box, 3 inch rubber slightly bent plumbing hose, used my old flex intake hose, 3 inch rubber pipe connector and the intake snorkel that was in my car, this is the only position that i can think of a cold air intake... so what to do you think (see picture)
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Why not like this?
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That is pretty cool!
How is it handling the vibration? It is hard to tell how it is mounted.
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In my opinion, you just downgraded. The CFM is 320 for the Buick air box. While the stock 300SD air box CFM is 450. Per Wix Filter's website. MTU power had a reason to use it because of his space limitations. The '85 California air box would of been better to use because the surface area is slightly bigger then the Federal's. The best box would be the from the w124 300Ds and the 300SDL or 350SD with a CFM of 575. From the Wix Filter site.... Part Number: 46153 UPC Number: 765809461536 Principal Application: Various GM Vehicles (88-09) All Applications Style: Air Filter Panel Service: Air Length: 10.680 Width: 7.950 Height: 1.620 CFM: 320 Part Number: 42194 UPC Number: 765809421943 Principal Application: Mercedes 300D, SD, TD (77-85) All Applications Style: Air Filter Service: Air Height: 4.200 Outer Diameter: 12.000 Inner Diameter: 8.800 Ends: Plastic CFM: 450 Part Number: 42174 UPC Number: 765809421745 Principal Application: Mercedes 300 Series (86-92) All Applications Style: Air Filter Service: Air Height: 3.307 Outer Diameter: 16.043 Inner Diameter: 12.835 Ends: Plastic CFM: 575 No Wix info the 1985 California style filter. EDIT: w124 300Ds and the 300SDL or 350SD info is actually this. From the WIX Filter Website. Part Number: 42228 UPC Number: 765809422285 Principal Application: Mercedes 190D Turbo (87), 350SD, 350SDL Turbo (90-91), 300 Series (86-87) All Applications Style: Air Filter Service: Air Height: 5.135 Outer Diameter Top: 11.135 Outer Diameter Bottom: 7.700 Inner Diameter Top: 6.995 Inner Diameter Bottom: 3.560 Ends: Plastic Oval Shape: Yes CFM: 630 .
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I agree, its not much of an upgrade.....that is a pretty massive reduction in air flow, especially for an air sucking-dependent motor like a turbodiesel. MB used the filterbox they did for a reason....and, the original setup IS a true cold air intake......you're still getting air from the same tube, how is it any better than the stock setup?? It looks like this mod essentially just creates a more annoying obstruction when trying to work on the alternator etc....while at the same time reducing power/air flow. I'd go back to the proper MB setup.
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who has the setup in the pic with the saab intercooler? i have a saab intercooler just like that one and i was looking to do somthing similer with it
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That's mine. I'm using a K&N filter (flame suit on) to increase the CFM until I change to a volant and a vnt. I'm happy with the setup and the super minimal lag. Add my coated exhaust manifold to speed the gas away and it's the fastest spool up you can have with a IC and without a vnt. I had a thread about it but can't find it.
Last edited by MTUpower; 06-03-2009 at 09:22 PM. |
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well, i bought it because it was a BARGAIN it was for only 5 bucks and i read previous about using buick's air box for alternates, my original air box keeps on breaking its mount!! money was kind of tight so i did not want to spend 100 for that calif air box yet(it would be great though) .... as far as holding its doing really good, it moves VERY slightly, this way is better than the K&N method do you know how fast the filter gets dirty, and the cost of a replacement is like around $20, not worth it
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I agree its better than a K&N Cone....(pretty much anything aside from wide open is ) But it is likely restricting your air flow and power....and will cut on efficiency/mpg's..... From 450CFM to 320CFM is a huge reduction, 130CFM less.....that's over 30% less...
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daw_two Germantown, TN Links: Sold last car --- 05/2012 1984 300D Light Ivory, Red interior Cluster Needles Paint New Old Stock (NOS) parts Past: 3/2008 1986 300SDL "Coda" 04/2010 1965 190D(c) "Ben" & many more |
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I did not feel any power difference when switching form K&N to the air box method... but i am for sure i am not going back to K&N method!!!!
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Dispite what others say the first thing I thought to myself is that the air filters are a h3ll of a lot cheaper! Also it takes up MUCH less space in the engine bay which is nice; I just went to replace my fog light the other day and the headlight housing was a pain to get off because the airbox was so close. Cool idea (no pun intended) even if it doesn't help as much as one would hope!
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The test is simple- make several runs with the stock air filter. Several runs with the K&N. Several runs with nothing if you dare. Note the difference in times from 0-60, 30-60 etc. You can buy a K&N for the GM 3.8 housing.
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Edit: I thought you originally said LeBaron instead of LeSabre....they're both stupid names! Still, I would try and find the supercharged engine (Riviera?) airbox.
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what about the vent line floating in space above your turbo? mine would be dumping oil on all those components after a few long drives
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