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Old 06-16-2009, 01:01 PM
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B-2 piston help & decisions

I have found lots of help with the transmission and the B-2 piston, but I need advice. In my daughter's 123 she was pouring lots of trans fluid in (2 quarts in 2 weeks), and it started slipping and then wouldn't engage in forward gears when hot. When it cooled off and we added more fluid it would go forward some; reverse was fine. I pulled the B-2 piston and it looks good, so I might just put a new piston seal ring and cover circlip if I can find it.
Do I need the sleeve that the end of the piston and rod go into also? (is it the brake band bushing on Fastlane?), and should I replace the piston anyway even though it's not broken ($125)?
-'83 300D 123
-transmission fluid looks good
-I'll replace the filter and fluid, of course.
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:06 PM
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The fluid loss is an issue. Where is it leaking?
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:25 PM
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I have not found any fluid under the car; it seemed a bit damp in the area of the b-2 cover... One of the symptoms of B-2 problem I found was fluid leaking out of the bore. Maybe we were losing some on the road.
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:49 PM
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The fact there is fluid loss is troubling to me. If you can't determine where the loss is coming from, I'd be hesitant to pay $125+ on a new B2 piston. But at the same time, I would not put back in the old design piston and sleeve.

So I suggest you go to a wrecking yard find a maybe an 1987, definitely 1988 or newer (but not sure how much newer) vehicle with a 733.3xx trans like a 420SEL or 560SEL and pull the updated B-2 piston, sleeve and lock ring (since you lost it). Then install it in your trans with a new o-ring on the cover and test it. If you still using fluid, your not out 125+ dollars and can put that towards a new transmission if needed.

I pulled an updated B2 piston and sleeve from a '88 560SEL to use in a 1984 300D and only paid 6 bucks for it.



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Old 08-22-2009, 04:45 PM
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B2 piston SEAL source, '84 300d

Hello,

I'm ordering parts to replace the broken B2 piston on my '84 300d~127k.
seems everyone has the new style piston and bushing,
but I don't see the seal anywhere.
The old one will be destroyed shortly.
Is this a dealer part?
or a common size?
anyone have the part number?

any help,
thanks all,

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Old 08-22-2009, 07:26 PM
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Part number is 006-997-73-47 called, reasonably enough, "seal ring". $9 from my local dealer. BUT if you use a seal picker, like part number #3245 from NAPA, you can reuse the old one - it's not a wear item. I destroyed mine before buying the picker. Learn from me - it's less than 2 minutes to extract the seal with the picker; while I spent over an hour before that with an assortment of hooks, modified screwdrivers and the like.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:36 PM
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Tjohn,
too late for me too.
I wonder why I don't have that tool?

Now I'll buy it, and the seal.


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