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Old 06-16-2009, 02:34 PM
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Flywheel bolt size + Tightening torque

Anyone know the thread size & pitch for the waisted bolts that clamp the flywheel on an OM616?

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Old 06-16-2009, 03:01 PM
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From the FSM....



Thread dia. D M 10x 1
when new 7.7-0.2
Necked-down stem dia. d minimum dia. 7.3
Length L 31

Tightening torques
Initial torque 30-40 Nm
Angle of rotation torque 90-100°





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Old 06-16-2009, 06:05 PM
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Hmm. Tried my 10x1 tap, but it didn't feel good.
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Old 06-16-2009, 06:53 PM
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Why are you chasing the threads? Did you have a damaged flywheel or something? That number is from the FSM. So maybe you need to compare the tap with your bolts to get a definite answer if someone else doesn't chime in.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:57 PM
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Sounds like someone didn't believe in torque values. Those are stretch bolts btw. His may have been overstretched, I have heard it is possible for them to self strip if reused to many times.
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where can I get new manual flywheel bolts?
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:52 PM
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Buy parts at top of page. If you need em this weekend your local stealership will be happy to show you the proper use of KY.
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rusty at buymbparts.biz. If you need em this weekend your local stealership will be happy to show you the proper use of KY.
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FYI, I have encountered bolts that were in so tight that it was flat out impossible to rotate them without stripping the socket side of the bolt off. I was forced to grind the heads off to pull the driven plate or flywheel off, but the vibration of grinding always loosened them so they could be removed by hand!

Don't know if it was a fluke on the two cars I did it on, but it was a nice surprise the get all ready to go through all the BS to remove them, and have them screw right out.
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Don't know if it was a fluke on the two cars I did it on, but it was a nice surprise the get all ready to go through all the BS to remove them, and have them screw right out.
That is odd. I've pulled 5 manual trans from benzes so far without this problem.
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How necessary is it to replace them? It's like $75 for 12.
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How necessary is it to replace them? It's like $75 for 12.
Critical, they are torque to yield = when re-used they fail.

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That is odd. I've pulled 5 manual trans from benzes so far without this problem.

Let me edit this, never had a problem with the deep socket surface flywheel bolts, but those shallow socket surface auto driven plate bolts I hate. Had to grind a number of those off on the the two removals in question
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I only got two to loosen properly on my 617, the rest rounded off. It's important to use a high quality 12point 12mm socket, otherwise the torque is just too much.
I cut off the remaining 10 bolts with my torch, and then the remains just unscrewed. Once you take the torque off a bolt, the thread bind goes away, and you can spin them by hand.
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Old 07-03-2010, 11:37 PM
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How necessary is it to replace them? It's like $75 for 12.
I never have but would recommend it. Ymmv

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