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Old 07-03-2009, 06:39 PM
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Question What is a "clutch line"?

Hey all,

Just wondering, what is a "Clutch Line"? I'm wondering because my mechanic told me it needed to be replaced on my manual 220D and now my clutch pedal is starting to stick to the floor. I couldn't even get out of a slanted parking space cause the pedal was taking so long to come out and the car was rolling forward.

Is this a diy type replacement?

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Old 07-03-2009, 06:42 PM
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umm, i don't mean to sound like a jerk, but why didn't you ask the mechanic?

never heard of a clutch line.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:50 PM
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umm, i don't mean to sound like a jerk, but why didn't you ask the mechanic?

never heard of a clutch line.
Well when he was talking about it, he was going over EVERYTHING I needed and I had already heard it before, was just wanting to leave.

It's funny too, cause when I first got the car it stuck too, but after we had the 1,000 job done it stopped... But now it's doing it again.
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If it is hydraulic, you have the master cylinder and the slave cylinder. The "line" would be in between. Is is rusted or leaking?
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:06 PM
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If it is hydraulic, you have the master cylinder and the slave cylinder. The "line" would be in between. Is is rusted or leaking?
It is indeed hydraulic and I think it's just corroded, there is a line the goes straight from the brake fluid reservoir down to the clutch, but the mechanic replaced it since it was barley hanging on, but they still said the "clutch line" needs to be replaced.. I thought that was the clutch line? I'm starting to think it's this:

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If it is hydraulic, you have the master cylinder and the slave cylinder. The "line" would be in between. Is is rusted or leaking?
yeah probley, we were just thinking about it to much.

But if that was leaking it would cause you to have NO clutch.
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It's probably a hydraulic line between the reservoir and the slave, but it's too general a term to say which one. I don't know if "line" is interchangable with "pipe," but if it's not, then that hose is what needs replacing.
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yeah probley, we were just thinking about it to much.

But if that was leaking it would cause you to have NO clutch.
ugh, then why is it sticking >_<

Hopefully this will give us a clue, when the car is cold the clutch works perfectly, but once the car heats up and has been in operation for a good 20 minutes or so it starts sticking and then sticks baaaad. But if I let is sit for awhile it starts to come back.
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sounds like a slave cylinder to me....Has it been replaced??
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sounds like a slave cylinder to me....Has it been replaced??
No it hasn't. Going to prop it up right now and check it out. ugh I hope it's the hose lol
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:29 PM
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then that the problem, they usualy go bad every 10-15 years.
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1976 240D 190,000 miles
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Any leak in that system will cause the pressure to "bleed off" and the pedal will "stick to the floor" as you say.

I don't know much about the MB Clutch hydraulic systems. But, most of them are very simple to troubleshoot. It is usually the Master or Slave cylinder that goes bad. With the car being so old, it could very well be the "line" as well.

If you have a helper, you can have some one "pump it up" while you look for leaks. This makes it much easier. Is the MB Slave cylinder outside or inside the bell housing?

The Slave cylinder can leak internally which will not be an obvious leak.
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If that's a rubber hose like a brake hose it might be swelling up inside and restricting return flow.
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If that's a rubber hose like a brake hose it might be swelling up inside and restricting return flow.
very good point, i never though about it.
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If that's a rubber hose like a brake hose it might be swelling up inside and restricting return flow.
My power steering leak has been leaking right on my front left brake line, and eating away at it, could this be what's happening? I hear it's all connected in some way...

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