Okay, I have some pictures of the OM617 from a 79 300SD I have:















The engine turns over, and easily. The tranny that came from this vehicle was fine, so I'm thinking that the engine is probably in "good" running condition, as the body rusted out of this w116.

I'd like to start it up in my garage and find out how it sounds. Just wondering if someone would be so kind as to tell me what I need to move around, adjust, hook up, add, etc. in order to do so - so that I don't mess anything up with it. I have a starter for it, and a rad. Oil cooler lines are still attached as you can see. Anything else would be helpful, especially the accelerator linkage. Some of it is missing, so I will need to figure out something for that or get a replacement.

Thanks in advance.

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI

#1 You'll need to block off the oil sender, don't forget it or it won't run for long.

Feed water through the block.

Idle should not depend on the throttle linkage, just give it fuel at the IP, while minding moving parts.

Keep an air cleaner on it.

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82 Benz 240 D, Kuan Yin
12 Ford Escape 4wd

You're four times

It's hard to

more likely to

concentrate on

have an accident

two things

when you're on

at the same time.

a cell phone.

www.kiva.org It's not like there's anything wrong with feeling good, is there?

That would have been bad....thanks. I wonder how far that pressure line would shoot?

Roger that...planning to hook up the rad.

Okay, one thing that bothers me....no way to shut it off, except to remove the fuel line? There's no shutoff lever left.

I hope I kept that. I'm pretty sure I have it.

So.....hook up the rad and fill it, block the oil sender, toss on the air cleaner and starter, pipe fuel lines into a 2l pop bottle of diesel, prime it with the manual pump {I assume?), attach the bump starter and away I go?

Anyone see anything else that I am missing?

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI

I would not be afraid to run it five minutes without any water.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

In this case I would not keep the air cleaner on it. I would have a block of wood ready to slam over the turbo inlet in case it runs away.

Rick

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80 300SD (129k mi) 82 240D stick (193k mi)77 240D auto - stick to be (153k mi) 85 380SL (145k mi) 89 BMW 535i 82 Diesel Rabbit Pickup (374k mi) 91 Jetta IDI Diesel (155k mi) 81 VW Rabbit Convertible Diesel 70 Triumph Spitfire Mk III (63kmi)66 Triumph TR4a IRS (90k mi)67 Ford F-100 (??)

to me, that heavy thing on an engine stand with three legs on the ground is asking for a disaster. . . but then again, what do i know ?

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83 300D Alabama Beauty (Son's)
83 300D West Coast Rust Free that been abused

I was going to say the same thing. I hope you are going to build a stand for it or something, these engines shake 3000 pound cars and when it shuts of it jumps 2-3 inches with motor mounts and shocks

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2003 TJ with Hemi (to go anywhere, quickly) sold
2001 Excursion Powerstroke (to go dependably)
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1962 Corvette LS1 (to go in style)
2001 Schwinn Grape Krate 10spd (if all else fails)

I ran mine secured to a 4-wheel dolly with a cargo strap. You will need a way to activate at least some of the glow plugs for about 5-8 seconds. As Tom W. said, running w/o coolant for several minutes wont hurt it- when you can't touch the head anymore, shut it off. I would disconnect the power steering pump, and you may have to adjust the rack damper to get it to idle smoothly with no accessories and no flywheel.

Starter gear is on the flywheel isn't it? Won't start w/o that.

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82 Benz 240 D, Kuan Yin
12 Ford Escape 4wd

You're four times

It's hard to

more likely to

concentrate on

have an accident

two things

when you're on

at the same time.

a cell phone.

www.kiva.org It's not like there's anything wrong with feeling good, is there?

Thanks....I will probably do that then. I just want to see if it is running "good", as much as I can tell in 5 minutes or so.

Good idea Rick. That was one of my main worries.

I do have the instrument cluster, but I think I'll just plug the line. Moving the hoses around the fan and bucket while it is running might be....ahem...."counterproductive" to certain limbs.

As for the stand guys, it's an engine stand, not a running engine stand. Besides, to alleviate most fears, no one can hook a starter up to an engine mounted on a stand this way. I was going to use the advanced "lietuviai engine testing method" of sitting it in a tire, without the pickup bed. But good call on safety, as it might not have been the first time someone would have tried to run a mounted engine.

Good point....I'm assuming with the heat today it might not be an issue, but if I don't get to it until the evening, it will be.

So how do I get those hooked up?

Thanks for the good commentary guys.

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI

I would want a bit of safety & not to damage something expensive so I would strap it to a pallet or something similar.the engine stand is just too high for my liking. Also feeding it with a garden hose isn't that hard so that would have my vote. When the engine is out it is easy to find leaks and stuff much easier to see where the oil or fuel is coming from If you run it for a while you may save yourself lots of grief later by being able to fix things. Cheers Dan

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92 Toyota Diesel Landcruiser HDJ81-t 116K
02 Golf TDI new head courtesy of PO
87 300D
97 BMW 525 TDS Wagon 5spd
bunch of Onan and other diesel generators

Which is why I am not planning to use the engine stand while testing it, have never thought of using the engine stand while testing it, and will not in the future ever think of using an engine stand to test one.

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI

So what's the best way to run current directly to the glow plugs?

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI

If the IP still has the Throttle Lever it you can use the Throttle Lever itself to push it past Idle and into the shutoff position.
Or Just apply some Vacuum to the Vacuum Shutoff.
When you have the Injector Line Nuts loose to bleed the system and you see fuel comming out; see of applying Vacuum to the Vacuum Shutoff will cut the Fuel off; and do the same with the Throttle lever.

I think it was Brian who suggested they you could get a Piece of Romex Wire for houses that has the same size as the pins on the Glow Plug Relay. Stick them into the Glow Plug wire connector; twist the bare wire ends together and grip them with one of your Jumper Cables.
Touch the other end of the Jumper Cable to the + terminal of the Battery and hold it tere until for what you feel is sufficient to heat up the Glow Plugs. Start the Engine and remove the Jumper Cable from the Battery Terminal.
In one of the Threads Brian gave the Size of wire to use but I do not remember it.

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84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel

I cannot get a good look from the pic of the Turbo inlet but are the Turbo Intake Fin edges dinged or rough?

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