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Shawn T. W. 07-13-2009 09:47 AM

My 1st MB . . . A 82 240D Manual!
 
Howdy!

Well I bought one yesterday . . . was a bit hot in the Phoenix area yesterday! saw 114F on wifes Volvo going to look at the MB!

I have a few questions:
1. The Drivers door does not latch if you slam it, but if you close it very lightly . . . it latches fine! Is this an adjustment issue?

2. Driving back with the A/C on Max, fan on III the engine temp was running about 110 - 112C at about 55mph, bumped up to 65mph, it crept up to 118C!:eek: Is this normal fro it being so hot outside? once I slowed down to about 45, engine would cool down to 105-110C

3. Every once in awhile I would see the seatbelt light flicker on . . . maybe 4 times in 169 mi . . . (BTW trip & odo read together, and are off from Volvo's trip by 2 mi for that trip home!)

4. This morning I went out, and now can't get into the trunk! The key turns but doesn't open . . . is that the vacuum system that leaked down? The pass fron door was also locked, which was unlocked last night if I remember . . . drivers door was unlocked . . .

5. Does the A/C "turn off" when the temp is met? I don't see a "switch" to turn it off or on, Is there no "vent" position?

6. I have most if not all the service records on this, it looks like in the area of 67k mi it had the timing chain replaced . . . is that normal? Also vacuum pump & oil pan . . . at same time! maybe a accident?

Also noticed in one of the folders written "Spedo replaced at" but no number, maybe it was done, maybe not . . .

It needs some clean up, and TLC, but is rust free, and runs good!

More later . . .

Oh, yeah here are a few pics . . . it was dark out this morning . . .

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s.../77300D044.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s.../77300D047.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s.../77300D048.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...D/img_3099.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...D/img_3092.jpg

tbomachines 07-13-2009 09:56 AM

Congrats! Sounds like you've got a good project ahead of you :). If your trunk is anything like my SD, you can turn it about 1/4 CCW and push the latch in to open it. Mine is always locking due to the vacuum. Timing chain at 67k? Not normal, it should go much longer than that. One possibility is the vacuum pump crapped out and spit its internals into the engine and pan, and the timing chain was replaced as a precaution? Was the oil pump replaced at any point? I can't really think of anything that would just take out those three major components without damaging/having to replace anything else.

Squabble 07-13-2009 10:06 AM

congrats! very cool looking car, classy color, and a manual to boot!

now, you really need to diagnose that temp. issue!!!! that is not normal really shouldn't be up that high. when mine was running hot i just went all out and drained, flushed, replaced all rubber hoses, put in a new thermostat, and filled it up with the proper coolant. it sounds like you might need a new thermostat, i'd start there and see how that goes. good luck with your new projects!

Shawn T. W. 07-13-2009 10:25 AM

I'll have to pull the reciept, and scan it, almost look like there was another pump, and maybe a head . . . working on little sleep now . . . and gotta go to work!

Scuabble, you also never probably saw 114 in NY either . . . once it cooled down to 90 or below, it was alot lower!

I've got some more testing to do, rad has yellow coolant in it, didn't use any oil in the 169 mi drive home . . . got up to 80 for about 30 sec before a hill!:D topped the hill at 70!

zeke 07-13-2009 11:43 AM

Congrats, I love my 240D!

Try turning your key the other way in the trunk. I always forget which way is which, but one way locks it the other unlocks it, but you have to press the button with the key turned.

Re: seatbelt light - our 300TD does that. Never really cared too much about it - always figured just needed a new seat belt indicator switch. You can buy one here at fastlane I think.

118*C does seem pretty hot - for comparison, I did a citric acid flush and replaced the thermostat and used the proper (not green) coolant. This weekend, we have had temps of about 104*F here in San Antonio. With the AC (134a so harder on the engine) on, and on the HW at 65-70 mph temp ran between 90 and just over 100, maybe 105. So it does seem like you should do some investigating of the cooling system.

I love it when it hit 104*F, b/c I can tell my Canadian in-laws that we hit 40*C and it blows their minds (like when they tell me it is -20*F!). The point is that the operating temp is so far above the temps we live at that I don't really think it impacts the engine temp too much.

Good luck! Love the wheel covers and the manual Climate control

Shawn T. W. 07-13-2009 01:09 PM

Glancing through the service records, there was a complaint of the seat belt light about 20 yrs ago!

120C is where the red starts on the gauge. I agree it should be lower . . .

It does have the 134 . . .so is the "manual a/c controls" a "good thing" I like most things "manual (except labor!)

I'll get some real pictures this afternoon after I leave school/work

I tried to turn it both ways, but not turning it when pushed in . . . I just got my paperwork out of the glove box to call in my ins co. and the pass door was locked again . . . I have a vac tester I need to play with . . .

brownrice78 07-13-2009 03:37 PM

Congrats on the car! The 240 Manual is one tough SOB. You should replace the thermostat and see if that helps. The thermostat is only $20 at most .com parts guys. Dieselgiant.com has a DIY article on doing the thermostat..check out dieselgiant.com

tbomachines 07-13-2009 03:49 PM

If there was also an oil pump and head, I would suspect a broken timing chain or tensioner. A piece could have shot out and damaged the pan or pickup. I don't know if the vacuum pump attaches to the timing mechanism (all I've heard is don't break it or you'll end up with shards in the engine) so that could be unrelated. Seems odd to me that the timing chain would go that quickly - I think they usually go 150-200k before they are stretched enough to pose a risk.

Shawn T. W. 07-13-2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brownrice78 (Post 2245770)
Congrats on the car! The 240 Manual is one tough SOB. You should replace the thermostat and see if that helps. The thermostat is only $20 at most .com parts guys. Dieselgiant.com has a DIY article on doing the thermostat..check out dieselgiant.com

Thanks I'm making a list . . . I plan on giving Phil a try . . .

mike-81-240d 07-13-2009 03:53 PM

Congrats on the nice car, i too have a 81 and i used to have that same kenwood HU in it till i put a nice one in.
On the running hot problem MAKE sure your Aux fan is working that and a new thermostat.

Seatbelt light there is a plug clip on a rail under the seat that may be lose, but you would have to pull the seat to tell.

Do you have manual windows? I'm confused as to why your car has wood on the console, ash tray, and the upper switch panel i would think it would be black like mine?

Good luck,
Michael

matthias08 07-13-2009 05:07 PM

CONGRATS!

I honestly love driving my 240D 4speed more than my '95 E300 Diesel or '01 E320.:rolleyes:

ya know, I have manual windows, no sunroof... but have the wood in some center places too, but not all of it. hmmm. :o


hope you enjoy!


Matt

Shawn T. W. 07-13-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike-81-240d (Post 2245785)
Congrats on the nice car, i too have a 81 and i used to have that same kenwood HU in it till i put a nice one in.
On the running hot problem MAKE sure your Aux fan is working that and a new thermostat.

Seatbelt light there is a plug clip on a rail under the seat that may be lose, but you would have to pull the seat to tell.

Do you have manual windows? I'm confused as to why your car has wood on the console, ash tray, and the upper switch panel i would think it would be black like mine?

Good luck,
Michael

Yes ,elec fan is working

probably will pull the seat, when I noodle it

Yes manual windows, but elec sunroof.

Mine is a 82, bought mid Dec 01 . . . in OR . . .still has 1st aid kit full of stuff & the cover is intact!

The cig lighter outlet, does not seem to have anything to plug into in the dash, but I see a plug on the bottom of the ashtray . . . :rolleyes:

pawoSD 07-13-2009 07:22 PM

Nice! I'm about ready to set my 300E on fire and just buy one of those!

Mark DiSilvestro 07-13-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn T. W. (Post 2245857)
Yes ,elec fan is working

probably will pull the seat, when I noodle it

Yes manual windows, but elec sunroof.

Mine is a 82, bought mid Dec 01 . . . in OR . . .still has 1st aid kit full of stuff & the cover is intact!

The cig lighter outlet, does not seem to have anything to plug into in the dash, but I see a plug on the bottom of the ashtray . . . :rolleyes:

My recently-sold '81 MT 240D had black plastic on the swich-panel, ashtray, and surrounding the shifter.
Both my MT and AT '82 240Ds have wood-trimmed ashtrays, and around the shifter and swiches.

Unless something's really messed up, turn the trunk-key all the way to the left, then with the key still fully turned, push the button in to open the trunk.

Happy Motoring, Mark

Shawn T. W. 07-13-2009 10:11 PM

I did finaly get the trunk open, it seems it could be simpler . . . but I just need to remember how I did it . . .

Here are some copies of the service records . . . what do you think happened? Notice at 28911 mi it needs a vacuum pump (or rebuild)
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...0D/28911RO.jpg

At 67000 mi it has no power & smokes, it needs a timing chain . . . plus . . .
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...D/67000RO2.jpg

Page 2 Is that a cylinder head for $980? Why would it need that?
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...D/67000RO1.jpg

At 82153 mi it has a oil habit!:eek: (has not used oil yet, only about 175 mi . . .)
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...0D/82153RO.jpg


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