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Old 07-29-2009, 03:27 PM
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Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 10W-30

Is there any problem if I run this oil in my 602.962 in the winter time for better starting? Currently I use Delvac 15W50 in the summer (Only had the car for few months). I'm not even sure yet if I can find the oil in NC.

The spec sheet shows that it is not MB approved.

My MB manual says 10W30 is acceptable between -4F to +50F. Might even think about using half and half for 12.5W40 mix if you all think it is too thin.

Anyone else using it?

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Old 07-29-2009, 04:40 PM
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That is not a diesel grade oil. Use diesel oil. Dino Rotella T 15w40 is barely $12-13 a gallon. And Delvac 1300 15w40 is around the same. Use a proper oil!!

And do not mix oil weights, they have different additives and formulations. Bad idea!

Use a proper diesel oil and it will be fine. In NC you can probably just use a 15w40 diesel oil year round. Or even better, a 5w40 synthetic diesel oil.
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:56 PM
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Why not use Mobil 1? You can get 0, 5 or 10 and Walmart has the 5 qt jug for sale at $22 down from $28. Then you can drive 7500-10,000 miles rather than 3-3500miles.
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:58 PM
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All Delvacs are lubricants for diesel engines.
It is better if you can afford Delvac1
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That is not a diesel grade oil. Use diesel oil. Dino Rotella T 15w40 is barely $12-13 a gallon. And Delvac 1300 15w40 is around the same. Use a proper oil!!

And do not mix oil weights, they have different additives and formulations. Bad idea!

Use a proper diesel oil and it will be fine. In NC you can probably just use a 15w40 diesel oil year round. Or even better, a 5w40 synthetic diesel oil.

I politely disagree. See the Mobil page for the specs on that oil.
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:22 PM
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I still wouldn't use a 30 weight oil in a diesel engine. If you want better winter starting use a 5w40.

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Read your manual. You can use 30W oil if the ambient temperatures are extremely low.
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:25 PM
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I did read my manual. The copyright date on it was 1991, and oil technologies have come a long way since then. I'll stick with my 5w40.

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I have a buddy in TX that works for an oil company formulating diesel oils. I asked for recommendations and got a 2 hour lecture about lubricant technology. In the end though- I gave him some brands and weights- and it ended up Rotella (yes) and Delo (yes). So which ever is on sale (and available) the 190d gets. I bought a bunch of Rotella T on "sale" last year- I'm still using it. The 190d really seems to prefer it in the cold to other stuff I've tried.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:46 PM
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I have a buddy in TX that works for an oil company formulating diesel oils. I asked for recommendations and got a 2 hour lecture about lubricant technology. In the end though- I gave him some brands and weights- and it ended up Rotella (yes) and Delo (yes). So which ever is on sale (and available) the 190d gets. I bought a bunch of Rotella T on "sale" last year- I'm still using it. The 190d really seems to prefer it in the cold to other stuff I've tried.
Does your buddy work for Shell ?
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The weight of the oil is not the point. AFAIK, Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 10W-30 is not diesel-rated. Period.
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:02 PM
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Yeah, any local autozone should have a whole separate shelf with at least 5-6 different kinds and brands of diesel oils.....take your pick.
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Delvac is specifically made for Diesel engine. Did you go to Mobil link in Bio300TDTdriver's response ?
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The weight of the oil is not the point. AFAIK, Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 10W-30 is not diesel-rated. Period.
Follow link in post #5, read site. You may change your mind, I did.
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AS far as I can tell they both are diesel oils.

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Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 10W-30 and 15W-40 are extra high performance diesel engine oils that help extend engine life in the most severe on and off-highway applications while delivering outstanding performance in modern, high-output, low-emission engines including those with Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) and Aftertreatment Systems with Diesel Particulate Filters (DPFs) and Diesel Oxidation Catalysts (DOCs). Fully backwards compatible, Mobil Delvac 1300 Super will also deliver the same exceptional performance in older conventional engines. As a result, they exceed the API CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS and CH-4 service categories as well as key Original Equipment Manufacture (OEM) requirements for 2007 engines.
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAUSE2CVLMOMobil_Delvac_1300_Super.asp

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