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Old 08-13-2009, 10:11 AM
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GREAT NEWS 92 W124 300D C.A.R.S DOES NOT QUALIFY!

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Fuel Type Diesel Engine Size 2.5 L Cylinders 5 Transmission Automatic 4-spd Drive Rear-Wheel Drive Options TurboCharger, (DSL,TRBO) (NO-CAT) Vehicle Category Passenger Car Combined MPG 25 Qualifies for CARS? No. Your trade-in must have a Combined MPG rating of 18 MPG or less to qualify.

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Old 08-13-2009, 10:13 AM
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but my 98 Ford Explorer Does!!!!!

Does my trade-in qualify?

1998 Ford Explorer 2WD
Fuel Type Regular Engine Size 4.0 L Cylinders 6 Transmission Automatic 5-spd Drive Rear-Wheel Drive Options SOHC, CLKUP Vehicle Category Category 1 Truck Combined MPG 16 Qualifies for CARS? Yes. You may qualify for the CARS program.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:55 AM
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No MB diesel qualifies, and many of the 6cyl gassers do not either....and all of the 4cyl gassers do not. As least the efficient MB's will still be around.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:25 AM
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1986-1992 300E's do qualify. The CARS program puts their average mpg at 18 mpg.
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:41 PM
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My 1993 LEXUS GS300 does qualify they "RATED" it at 18 MPG.
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:45 PM
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No MB diesel qualifies, and many of the 6cyl gassers do not either....and all of the 4cyl gassers do not. As least the efficient MB's will still be around.
Unfortunately it sure is wiping out a lot of nice 107s and 126s, and a few 124s. Even though I'm partial to the more efficient MBs, especially diesels, it breaks my heart to see a gorgeous SL traded in for a Camry and thrown into the crusher. Not that I have a problem with the owner getting a Camry instead; it was probably more practical for her ... but that SL could have been a really nice car for someone with a little skill who wanted an affordable roadster to fix up. And as far as the 126s and 124s go, that's a lot of nice bodies, body panels and countless parts being destroyed that otherwise could have been swapped onto more sensible MBs at the very least.

The program is a huge kick in the face to low-income people. The feds are smashing the cars and trucks they can afford so that people better off than them can pat themselves on the back as they drive off in a brand new car. Personally, I could afford a new car if I wanted one. But I know a lot of people who couldn't begin to, but are perfectly willing to buy a cheap old truck, get their hands dirty and turn it into something that can get them to work. My boss just traded his Dodge Dakota in for a Toyota Tacoma. The Dakota was a beautiful truck ... I parked next to it on its "last night." Maybe my boss felt that having to replace the tie rods on it was endgame, but I can think of a whole lot of people who would have cherished a truck in that condition.

And not to be overly pessimistic, but does anyone else ever worry about what's going to happen when they run out of clunkers? Are they really just going to leave it up to the Big Three to find a way to sell cars? Once they run out of people to trade in "clunkers," sales will drop off quite a bit, at least temporarily. One has to wonder if the government at that point will extend "clunkers" to include all cars.
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Unfortunately it sure is wiping out a lot of nice 107s and 126s, and a few 124s. Even though I'm partial to the more efficient MBs, especially diesels, it breaks my heart to see a gorgeous SL traded in for a Camry and thrown into the crusher. Not that I have a problem with the owner getting a Camry instead; it was probably more practical for her ... but that SL could have been a really nice car for someone with a little skill who wanted an affordable roadster to fix up. And as far as the 126s and 124s go, that's a lot of nice bodies, body panels and countless parts being destroyed that otherwise could have been swapped onto more sensible MBs at the very least.

The program is a huge kick in the face to low-income people. The feds are smashing the cars and trucks they can afford so that people better off than them can pat themselves on the back as they drive off in a brand new car. Personally, I could afford a new car if I wanted one. But I know a lot of people who couldn't begin to, but are perfectly willing to buy a cheap old truck, get their hands dirty and turn it into something that can get them to work. My boss just traded his Dodge Dakota in for a Toyota Tacoma. The Dakota was a beautiful truck ... I parked next to it on its "last night." Maybe my boss felt that having to replace the tie rods on it was endgame, but I can think of a whole lot of people who would have cherished a truck in that condition.

And not to be overly pessimistic, but does anyone else ever worry about what's going to happen when they run out of clunkers? Are they really just going to leave it up to the Big Three to find a way to sell cars? Once they run out of people to trade in "clunkers," sales will drop off quite a bit, at least temporarily. One has to wonder if the government at that point will extend "clunkers" to include all cars.
There are quite a few W140 around me getting crushed.
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:38 PM
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1986-1992 300E's do qualify. The CARS program puts their average mpg at 18 mpg.
Saw one of these the other day with "CFC" written on the windshield
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:40 PM
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Maybe some of us should put an ad in the local paper ... "I will beat the CARS buyback price for your old MB!"
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:51 PM
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Maybe some of us should put an ad in the local paper ... "I will beat the CARS buyback price for your old MB!"
Well ... if I had endless money, I'd love to do that. But unfortunately, not only would it take $4,500 per car, it'd take more than that due to the fact that dealerships kick in an additional rebate ... although they are now doing that if you just trade in your car for resale, not CFC, too.

Personally, if I had a nice old car worth $1,500 that qualified for CFC, I'd rather sell it to some guy who could really use it for $1,500. Then I just get $1,500. Not reduced car payments. And if I really wanted a new car, I'd honestly still just sell the old one, then go buy a new one. Or trade it in for resale so someone else can use it. I'm not so desperate for a $3,000 cut that I'd trash something very useful to someone else to get it, and if I were that desperate, I wouldn't be buying a new car ...
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:59 PM
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I doubt in the long run that very many MB's will die from this program....the ones that do are generally probably a "Cheap" MB and are way beyond reasonable $$ to get into good shape. All the same, lots of wasted good parts though. Statistics say that over 86% of the vehicles traded in so far have been domestic SUV's and Trucks....and I bet another several percent are older domestic V8 and V6 sedans.....

I'm sure very very few 107's will die, some W124's will, and probably a fair number of older W126 gassers....along with a handful of W140's....which are extreme maintenance/$$ hogs....

Your average MB-caring owner would not crush their car unless it was totally used up....and even less so because no new MB qualifies to be bought under the program.

Our 300E qualifies, but not in a million years would I trade it in for some piece of new non-mb plastic + a car payment. On the far reaches of the galaxy.....if it blew its motor or something, I'd consider a smart car....but that's it. You can get one for $99 a month with a clunker trade in. I highly doubt my driven 80 miles a week low miles M103 is going to die any time soon though. It's probably got a good 150-200k left in it.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:44 PM
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Crushed?

Does the car actually need to be crushed? I was told that they could still be sold for scrap, parted out at that point, but the engines are disabled/destroyed first.
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:09 PM
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I saw a nice 500 series BMW with the C4C on it. The paint was in very good shape. I do not know the year though.

Well GM (Gov't Motors) is getting bailed out again., or so it seems along with the other car companies.

I still want someone to show the math formula used to show that having a car payment and higher insurance is better for some one like me who's older cars are paid off and cost about $49 a month to insure.
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:11 PM
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Engine Disablement ONLY required

Here the Dealers are dumping all the CARS candidates onto one of the local
Recycler's yards (after destroying the engines).

Anyone who's "Crushing the Clunkers" is Stupid.[and throwing away money]
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what do they do to disable the engines???

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