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What are we going to do in 20 years when these are the cars we'll be buying?
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We'll have a hacked version of th STAR diagnostic system with some aftermarket Chinese replica cables and hardware
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I absolutely love mine, and it has had nothing but scheduled maintenance, with the exception of a bad thermostat. I'm 1k miles away from the big 100k!!
Everyone says that the new cars aren't DIY friendly, and they've been saying this for quite some time yet. A lot of people still say that about the W124 chassis, which has definitely been proven to be DIY friendly. The SBC brakes can be changed by unplugging the SBC pressure pump. I'm not sure about bleeding, but I think it has one hell of a built in pressure bleeder! Also, the OBDII interface is surprisingly useful for basic diagnostics, and should cover at least 80% of the problems you'll have. TMAllison has a good perspective as well. That car price is a pretty big rip-off. Check out prices on eBay... I paid $25,800 for my car in April of '08 with 66k miles. Now it is worth 22k on a good day. If you do want the low miles and CPO, that price should have all the extras. Heated/ventilated seats, HID headlights, navigation, side window shades, etc.
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How long does the air recirculation stay on in a CDI? In my '96 it's about 5 minutes without the AC and 30 minutes with. I wish I could fully control it myself. Daimler must think MB drivers are a bunch of dummies.
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I have yet to know a car that's not serviceable by a competent owner, at least as far as routine maintenance and basic repairs go. My TDI has never been serviced outside my own garage (other than wheel alignment) and I don't even have any fancy tools or a repair manual for it. Ditto for my E300D, except for the spring perches & lower control arms which I let someone else do.
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I'm thinking that once the 2010 E class comes in and they start selling them that the old style's values will drop even faster.
I have been toying with buying a W211 for some time, but frankly the W210 has been so trouble-free it is hard to justify making a change. The only problem I have had with it in the past 2-3 years is the A/C compressor went out...and that I was able to replace with one from a salvage yard for $100. I also had a rear door latch that was trouble but found a new-old-stock one on ebay for $35 where the dealer price was about 5X that. I'm scared that the "cheap parts" I've grown used to will be a thing of the past until the W211 gets as old as my W210. In the mean time, mine is pushing up to 180K and runs great, still regularly delivering 30+ MPG and since it was chipped it puts as big a smile on my face as any CDI could. So I will be happy to drive the E300 for another year.
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All Mercedes are like that; been that way since they first started putting a recirculate switch into the cars in the 1980s. The 124 and 210 chassis are the same. Before that, the 123 cars didn't offer a recirc switch, at least with the automagic climate control fitted in US cars. Of course, it only had 80% recirc, not 100%. I guess MB builds cars so tight they are afraid you might suffocate Or perhaps the way Europeans all smoke, they need to clear the haze out of the car every few minutes!
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I think the recirc timer is more a matter of using up the expensive charcoal filters unnecessarily.
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I'd rather have a fully functional recirc switch than some expensive charcoal filters which don't filter everything and not all models have them. What's annoying at least in my E300 is also the fact that sometimes I can't open the air to the outside if I have the AC on and it's significantly hotter outside, but that's not as annoying as the air opening up without warning in the middle of rush-hour traffic without any input from me. This really is my biggest gripe about MB. I've never seen such a retarded climate control system on any other make.
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What are we going to do in 20 years
I'll still be driving my 85 TD, that is if I still have a CDL,LOL
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In 20 years there might not be sufficient fuels available anymore for these cars
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we've got just under 58k on our '05 E320CDI
we've got a couple little issues that have come and gone leaky injectors (covered under warranty) dealer nessed up the turbo when it went in for the injector service transmission & COMMAND software has been updated, more than one time the power trunk closer we have went crazy, and tried to remove limbs sunroof was binding a few months ago yea... thats about it Mercedes Benz of cinci have an '05 & '06 right now... both with a heavy amount of options, in the mid 50,000 mile range $26-28 ASKING on ours (a demo) back when it was 6 months old w/ 7k was $42k sounds like you can get it cheaper.....
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BTW, to the original poster, if you want more info on the CDI's I'd suggest checking out Edmunds consumer reviews and visiting mbworld.org. Not many people on this site own a CDI. I've only test driven some, and the power is very impressive and so is the reported fuel economy. Comfort and solidity also impressed me. But I think I prefer the VW TDI's. You can have a manual transmission with those, they're even more efficient, cheaper, simpler and they have fully manual air recirculation which is important to me.
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