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Old 09-06-2009, 12:14 PM
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There is no need to clamp off any hoses. Clamping hoses of any kind is NOT a good idea. It can easily damage a hose.
Letting the pump go dry isn't a good thing, either. I think that it is fair to say that the average "first timer" is going to be shocked at the rate at which fluid is emptied from the pump reservoir if the procedure is done with the engine running. If you are going to do it that way, put all your flushing fluid in one container so you don't have to fumble with three individual quart bottles.

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Well, the MB fluid I have is not synthetic and is yellow.

Also, I only have one quart of it.

I didn't know I needed two to refill.
That's odd, the MB fluid I picked up was a green mineral oil (Pentosin 11S)
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:23 PM
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Isn't Pentosin 11S synthetic? Can hydraulic fluid be both mineral and synthertc?

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Old 09-06-2009, 07:46 PM
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If your assistant is quick on the switch the pump does not really go dry. There may not be a flooding of liquid, but there is PLENTY of fluid film in the pump to prevent any damage.

Folks, the method I described is the ACCEPTED method. It has been done in shops by pro's hundreds of thousands, probably MILLIONS of times. I personally would NOT post it here if there were ANY danger of damage.
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You don't drive the car , the car stay stationary. What you do is just empty and replaced the old fluids that come back on top of the reservoir from the pump after locking the wheels both side.
I wouldn't drive the car without any fluid or with the hose removed.

I did the job last night and I just had the engine running when I turned the wheels lock to lock about a dozen times.

I sucked out the fluid with a turkey baster(new).

It took a while but the fluid is crystal clear now.
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That's odd, the MB fluid I picked up was a green mineral oil (Pentosin 11S)
They definitely have synthetic but I don't think mine had synthetic in it.

The MB fluid I got was an amber color and the fluid in the car was a really dark, cloudy amber.

This is on a '93 so I am assuming that they hadn't gone synthetic then.
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Isn't Pentosin 11S synthetic? Can hydraulic fluid be both mineral and synthertc?

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Sorry, I wasn't clear on this. It is synthetic, white mineral oil is one of the ingredients. I pulled out the can and it reads "Synthetic automotive hydraulic fluid." It is a blue can from Mercedes with Q 1 32 0001 on it and it says it is Pentosin CHF 11S.
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Folks, the method I described is the ACCEPTED method. It has been done in shops by pro's hundreds of thousands, probably MILLIONS of times. I personally would NOT post it here if there were ANY danger of damage.
You coud say the same for open heart surgery. It's an accepted procedure. Pro's have done it millions of times. And there is a very high probability that an amateur doing the procedure for the first time won't get it right.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:30 PM
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Letting the pump go dry isn't a good thing, either. I think that it is fair to say that the average "first timer" is going to be shocked at the rate at which fluid is emptied from the pump reservoir if the procedure is done with the engine running. If you are going to do it that way, put all your flushing fluid in one container so you don't have to fumble with three individual quart bottles.
I was working from a 1 gallon jug, had a funnel in the throat of the PS pump reservoir. Part of my problem was that the funnel blocked my view; I didn't realize the fluid was going through so quickly. Next time (later this Fall) I may try loosening the serpentine belt and turning the pulley by hand. I'll have the front wheels off the ground to make them easier to turn.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:16 PM
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After I slipped a new seal between the reservoir and pump I turned the pulley by hand until there were no more bubbles. I don't know if that's enough pressure to force clean fluid through the convoluted path. The low speed and pressure might allow more time for new and old fluid to mix. Can you set a buffing wheel on a drill against the pulley for a little more rpm?

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