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Old 09-06-2009, 06:06 PM
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elchivito,

I think you are right on with this one - don't get too hyped about it because in the end you would have to invest both money and time to get it to a level you feel comfortable with.

You have identified a lot of cosmetic issues with the car - what that says to me is that if someone didn't care enough to wipe their muddy feet before getting in, they probably didn't care enough to investigate this noise or that vibration either. Sounds like the engine is probably solid, but I would expect lots of little fixes here and there. I would look at every piece of rubber on that car - suspension, door/window/suunroof seals, etc.

If someone says to me, "My dad just wants it gone", I come back the next day with $500 in cash in my hand and ask for the keys.

Just my $.02.


Oh, and to those of you more familiar with this particular model (whatever it is), shouldn't there be some linkage components (crossing over the valve cover) to control the intake? I am only referencing my '83 240D, but I can't imagine the set up is that different.

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Old 09-06-2009, 06:46 PM
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The euros have much less vacuum and linkage on the engine. I'm also not sure what this is, it appears to be a euro 300D engine, but the interior exterior look more like a US model (bumpers, electric windows, etc). Maybe it's a euro model that was modified for import to the US. We would really need the VIN to know for sure.

If you bought it for $500-1000, you could make a pretty nice driver for under $5000 (total). As an alternative, you can find one that's already in decent condition for the same price.
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Old 09-06-2009, 06:47 PM
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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I had my son taking pictures while I was looking over the car and didn't think to have him get a shot of the vin. It did have at least one sticker inside the driver's door with "Manufactured by Daimler etc.etc. in Germany" or some such written in English, I don't know if that's any clue or not. That sticker was in addition to the metal plate giving the vin and all the GVW's and such.
If somebody customized a 240 they'd have had to replace the 300 badge in the back, which of course isn't impossible.
It definitely has 5 cylinders, the pic is deceiving. I'm going to call and ask him for the Vin tomorrow. That'll settle it. I'll update the thread then.
Thanks again
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:00 PM
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My son just reminded me that there was a pair of clear headlight surrounds in the trunk and the old man had said (in Yugoslavian to his son) that he'd changed them. Sorry I don't know the correct terminology but the surrounds were clear plastic and it appeared that they would wrap around the corner in place of the amber piece there now. Make any sense? Nobody said anything about the tail lights. Notice the mounting holes in the rear bumper, there appeared to be a rubber strip missing from it, otherwise why the holes?
I have rarely felt so unprepared and ignorant. I can pick a prize winning goat, lamb or steer out of a herd from across the road but this is all new to me. Thanks for all your help!
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:15 PM
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It does sound like this is a euro car that was converted for use in the US, hence the replacement lights. There is a rubber strip missing from the rear bumper.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:35 PM
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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I had my son taking pictures while I was looking over the car and didn't think to have him get a shot of the vin. It did have at least one sticker inside the driver's door with "Manufactured by Daimler etc.etc. in Germany" or some such written in English, I don't know if that's any clue or not. That sticker was in addition to the metal plate giving the vin and all the GVW's and such.
If somebody customized a 240 they'd have had to replace the 300 badge in the back, which of course isn't impossible.
It definitely has 5 cylinders, the pic is deceiving. I'm going to call and ask him for the Vin tomorrow. That'll settle it. I'll update the thread then.
Thanks again
vin plate location as you just pointed out is 100% US spec.

The motor does not have a "M" injection pump either. This car was either a euro delivery option or just normal US dealer car that over the years has been
"Modded". Either way offer 500 bux and with this forum and the people on it you can fix the car up as your leisure.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:47 PM
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Somehow the idea that the car has been mechanically modded bothers me, maybe it shouldn't. Can it be safely said that a 4 speed was definitely NOT an option on the 82 300D in the U.S.? Or was it possible thru special order? I think I'd just as soon find an original and not some bastardized thing. It's been my experience with other makes that serious mechanical modifications rarely increase value and often depreciates it.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:52 PM
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Yes, we can verify that the manual tranny was NOT available on US spec '82 300D. Also, the US spec '82 300D was a turbo engine car.
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:01 PM
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well...

it looks like the drivers side tail light is a euro, right side is US? or is it just the lighting?

headlights are US
bumpers are US
MB text is possible as a euro, but cloth & text is common
power windows scream US, as do power sunroofs
VIN in windshield is US, but maybe in the federalization process?

there should/would be a headlight adjust switch like this...


might be on the dash, near sunroof switch, or I've seen this one... hence the picture (this spot is also commonly used for a rear speaker fader switch)

a 4speed on my 240D was an option, or might have been converted, I'm waiting on the orig. window sticker to arrive....

there have been many great conversions...

is this car a Turbo? have I missed something somewhere?
if its an N/A, I feel it was swapped in. if not, a turbo 4 speed is like.... my dream..

I feel, if you have the time/space... make an offer!

if only I could find one like this!
i'd be all over it like white on rice
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:29 PM
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My guess it's a 240D that someone dropped a NA 300D in it. There's no way of telling what the true mileage of the engine is if it's a swap. It's easy to swap the name tag on the trunk lid from 240D to 300D. As it was mentioned, if it's an 82 it should be a turbo.
The registration should indicate the true model.
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My guess it's a 240D that someone dropped a NA 300D in it. There's no way of telling what the true mileage of the engine is if it's a swap. It's easy to swap the name tag on the trunk lid from 240D to 300D. As it was mentioned, if it's an 82 it should be a turbo.
The registration should indicate the true model.
unless the VIN tags were swapped as well...

either way
runs
drives
isn't held together with tape, or undercoating...

it's worth buying to me...
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:39 PM
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My guess it's a 240D that someone dropped a NA 300D in it. There's no way of telling what the true mileage of the engine is if it's a swap. It's easy to swap the name tag on the trunk lid from 240D to 300D. As it was mentioned, if it's an 82 it should be a turbo.
The registration should indicate the true model.
With the exception of the engine, the hood pad, the power windows and the 300D name tag, it looks just like my 240D.
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:43 PM
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The 240D I used to own had the same hood pad.
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:51 PM
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That's the same hood pad I have, with the heat shield to accommodate the US '85 300D. It's not original.
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:55 PM
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I actually took the hood pad off the 240D before I sold it. It looked almost brand new and my 300D needed one. It actually came off very easily.

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