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Jim B. 09-06-2009 03:30 PM

Bored MB engineers stuff Bluetec diesel into old W201 sedan
 

While in their down time the boys over at AMG might try and stuff a a 6.2-liter V8 in a SMART car, a particular group of diesel-crazy engineers at Mercedes decided to fit a modern diesel engine into a classic 190 E chassis from 1990.

Not quite as exciting, we know, but interesting none the less.

The donor car was a 190 E, made famous by its motorsports cousin. As for the engine, it is the very same diesel you'd find under the hood of a modern C250 CDI BlueEFFICIENCY. Back in 1990, Mercedes did make a 190 D, but this 190 D BlueEFFICIENCY makes for an interesting comparison.

While the old car made 132hp, the new diesel makes 204hp. The real difference, however, comes in the torque department. Whereas the old diesel made 181 ft-lbs, this new diesel motor pumps out an impressive 369 ft-lbs from just 1600 rpm.

And despite all this power increase fuel-consumption has been improved significantly as well. While the old 190 D's fuel economy rating of 32 mpg was impressive at the time, this new 190 D gets a much-improved 48 mpg.

More: Report: Bored Mercedes Engineers Drop Modern 250 CDI Diesel into 190 E Chassis on AutoGuide.com



Wow I would love to have one of these.:eek::)

sasquatchgeoff 09-06-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 2287644)
Not quite as exciting, we know, but interesting none the less.

I resemble that remark....:D

TheDon 09-06-2009 04:04 PM

reeepoooossssttttt!

Fulcrum525 09-06-2009 04:15 PM

First time i've seen it......I WANT that 2.2 liter engine to come to the states so much....

How much do you think it would cost for just the engine and transmission?

SwampYankee 09-06-2009 07:14 PM

That is slick! I bet it goes like a bat out of hell, too.

Sev 09-06-2009 07:46 PM

AWESOME, in a word. Basically this is the diesel version of stuffing a 500e m119 engine into a 190e, which, incidentally, has been done before.

Oracle12345 09-06-2009 08:09 PM

an idea for my 190E once I get tired of screwing with it.

Sev 09-06-2009 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle12345 (Post 2287796)
an idea for my 190E once I get tired of screwing with it.

you mean an idea if you want to start screwing with it, haha. the screwing problems will only begin once you start on this swap, not end

Oracle12345 09-06-2009 08:25 PM

Well I am thinking making it happen depending on how reliable the bluetec engine is. If it is a winner then Ill seriously give it thought. It gets old after a while troubleshooting stalling problems on it after fixing one thing then its another thing. A nice car when its running good but not reliable as my toyota.

All I need is to get hold of information on bluetec and then locating all the parts necessary.

Sev 09-06-2009 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle12345 (Post 2287803)
Well I am thinking making it happen depending on how reliable the bluetec engine is. If it is a winner then Ill seriously give it thought. It gets old after a while troubleshooting stalling problems on it after fixing one thing then its another thing. A nice car when its running good but not reliable as my toyota.

All I need is to get hold of information on bluetec and then locating all the parts necessary.

you realize all the work required after sourcing all the parts, right? i mean, this is going to be a $20-30K swap, if you're realistically thinking of doing it right. you have to integrate the wiring harness into the car's fuse box, or use the original fuse box and put the wiring from the car's end into that, then there's getting the abs to work or deleting it, relocating the battery to the trunk, and getting the car to run in diagnostic mode, and so on and so forth. might as well buy a volkswagen tdi, lol

Oracle12345 09-06-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sev (Post 2287812)
you realize all the work required after sourcing all the parts, right? i mean, this is going to be a $20-30K swap, if you're realistically thinking of doing it right. you have to integrate the wiring harness into the car's fuse box, or use the original fuse box and put the wiring from the car's end into that, then there's getting the abs to work or deleting it, relocating the battery to the trunk, and getting the car to run in diagnostic mode, and so on and so forth. might as well buy a volkswagen tdi, lol

Yeah, these engineers happen to work for the company and had everything at their disposal. If i do it ill most likely a bluetec that got ruined in a accident, strip all the necessary parts, sell some parts of it then have it hauled way. A lot of work yes but challenging and time conusming

Dieselkraut23 09-06-2009 08:54 PM

Isnt there a song from SNL that goes something like this "jizz in my pants"? Because that sums up what just happend to me.

Oracle12345 09-06-2009 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselkraut23 (Post 2287835)
Isnt there a song from SNL that goes something like this "jizz in my pants"? Because that sums up what just happend to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

amosfella 09-06-2009 11:22 PM

I wonder if I could stuff a cdi engine into a 140... That would be beyond cool....

lietuviai 09-06-2009 11:56 PM

What a rat's nest.
http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/8...09C524_062.jpg


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