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Old 09-22-2009, 09:17 PM
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I don't think it was illegal, it just wasn't "the German Way."

But if you REALLY want factory cup holders, can't you just open your glove compartment? Aren't there two little recessed rings in there that look suspiciously like...cup holders? Okay, so they're not really practical, and they're clearly not intended for use while the car is in motion, but they are there.
Those little rings gave me a good laugh. I suppose if you are picnicking or some such thing they could be of use.

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Old 09-22-2009, 09:55 PM
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Those little rings gave me a good laugh. I suppose if you are picnicking or some such thing they could be of use.
Or a car hop.
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:57 PM
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:18 AM
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I frequently am sitting in the car when my wife comes out from a quick trip into the grocery store with her arms full, so I open the trunk for her from inside the car, saving her the difficulty of trying to depress the button when her arms are already full, and saving me the trouble of getting out of the car simply to open the trunk.
You're supposed to help her with the groceries I think.

We've had them before and I never used them. It just irritated me how you'd close the trunk and never could really feel whether it closed or not. The latches that release like that tend to not close "solidly" like ours do. It's just sort of a slam-it-and-assume procedure. Always wondered exactly how little it would take to pop one loose going down the road and lose all your stuff.
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Did someone say "simple"? What could be more simple than a lever & cable to open the trunk? Certainly not the diabolical vacuum systems in my 240Ds. I've had to disable vacuum for the locks because I got tired of -
1 Lockng the driver's door BEFORE I exit, so I could shut off the engine.
2 Having to run around the car, to manually lock some or all the doors that the vacuum unlocked, but then couldn't lock.

And irritating things that disabling the vacuum locks didn't fix -
3 Having to fight the inoperative vacuum-motors everytime I have to manually lock or unlock a door.
4 Having to use the key AND hold the button every time I open the trunk. If I try doing that with a package in the other hand, which hand do I use to pull the lid open?

Yeah, my cars are sooo much more simple without a remote trunk release, but I love them anyway!

By the way, I've added simple, center-console cup-holders to every one of my W123s!

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Old 09-23-2009, 07:55 AM
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My vacuum systems work perfectly, easy and cheap to fix if they do leak. Now the system on the W140 is not quite as simple.
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The only real problem with the button on the trunk is that anyone can open the trunk when you are standing still (for a red light).

If I have valuable stuff in my trunk I always lock it with the key to disengage the central locking system.

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Old 09-23-2009, 08:23 AM
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The only real problem with the button on the trunk is that anyone can open the trunk when you are standing still (for a red light).

If I have valuable stuff in my trunk I always lock it with the key to disengage the central locking system.

Rob
If you lock your doors while driving (and your door lock vac system is functional) the trunk will also be locked.
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I nearly always drive with the doors unlocked, my side windows are laminated and in case of an accident I would like be rescued.
My 126 has no unlock on impact (that I know of).

All valuables (except my passengers) are stored in the trunck.

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Old 09-23-2009, 09:16 AM
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I nearly always drive with the doors unlocked, my side windows are laminated and in case of an accident I would like be rescued.
My 126 has no unlock on impact (that I know of).

All valuables (except my passengers) are stored in the trunck.

Rob
Actually, unless you're driving something like a 1958 Ford truck, your side windows should be tempered-glass. In fact many European-market cars used to have tempered-glass front windsheilds. Those were requred to have laminated-glass windsheilds if sold in the US.

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I know it is not standard to have laminated side windows.

They are at least twice as thick as normal windows an very heavy.
The brand Ivasteel is etched on the windows.

Since I did not bought it new I do not know why it is fitted witch these windows maybe the first owner was not very popular.

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Old 09-23-2009, 08:34 PM
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I know it is not standard to have laminated side windows.

They are at least twice as thick as normal windows an very heavy.
The brand Ivasteel is etched on the windows.

Since I did not bought it new I do not know why it is fitted witch these windows maybe the first owner was not very popular.

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Ahh. So it sounds like maybe your car has been improved with bullet-proof (bullet-resistant?) glass. A popular aftermarket option since the proliferation of terrorists in the 1970s.

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I prefer the outside push button to an inside release mechanism anyway. Partially because I attribute the nice "pushing a door closed" feel you get when closing the trunk to the fact that it has a real latch mechanism instead of a cheesy quick-release one that doesn't stay closed half the time.

However... the lack of cup holders is the single #1 biggest pet peeve with these cars. Engine trouble, body trouble, rush, windows that quit working... I could deal with it all if I had a place to set a Coke bottle while I was making 2 hour drives.

The Germans were thinking of your health when designing these cars, coke and soda is bad for your health. besids, after 2 hrs it would be warm anyway. also doesn`t do the switches any good when it is spilt.

I`ve had the 85 for so long, I never knew it was a problem to open the trunk with the key, and when I see my wife coming along with a load, I get out to help her. But then we are newely weds, only 23 yrs .

Before the MB we had a Mazda 626, and it had a trunk release. It was nice to have, but when we got the MB I didn`t miss it, nor did I reasize, NO CUP Holders . Then my bottle of Perrier really doesn`t need a cup holder

I did find a feature on a 85 300D at PNP a couple weeks ago. there was a trunk release under the edge of the back seat by the L/R door. Must have been a factory option, never seen one before. So I pulled it thinking I would install it as an emergency release if the key didn`t release the latch. Any of you see this on a 123?

The biggest problem I see with the w123, isn`t the vacuum not shutting off the engine or not locking the doors, or not having a little dodad that makes the lights blink and horn honk a couple times and locks or unlocks the doors, no cup holder etc.... It`s when Iam getting the car in the middle of the night in some dark parking lot, when I open the drivers door, it unlocks everything else. now how safe is that? now the Boogie Man can jump in with you before the vacuum locks work.

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Old 09-24-2009, 01:17 AM
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Iwhen I open the drivers door, it unlocks everything else.
That's just about my favorite feature. One step, opens everything, no nuisance looking for buttons, no having to walk around the car sticking keys in everywhere... just one motion and you're in. REALLY a lifesaver when you come out to the car with your arms full.

Then again I don't live within a hundred miles of a city big enough to attract trouble of the sort you feel unprotected from by the doors, so it's not a 100% equal comparison.

And I think the nerve damage to my health from trying to juggle drinks in traffic is probably a greater health risk than just drinking the coke in the first place. I'm sure the Germans were thinking that no cup holders would promote less wrecks from being distracted, but in fact the inverse is true for a lot of people, me included. I'm more distracted trying to retrieve stuff like that from beside the seat in that hole, or the center console, or most often the gear shift track, than I would be if I just had a place to set it and virtually forget it.

I have found that wider based cups (not plastic bottles but actual drink cups) will sit fairly stable on the gear slider platform. Put it in D and then set the drink on the flat section between P and N. I drive with one hand on the stick anyway (yes, even though it's an auto, that's just a delightfully comfortable driving position) so I can stick a few fingers up over the cup rim and hold it still. Works the best of anything I've tried so far. I just consciously realize that in an emergency I'll have to let go of it, let it spill and coat whatever it wants to, and worry about the road.
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I've installed simple, reliable cupholders in all my W123s
From WalMart, for under $2, I got a package of four plain black plastic cupholders - the type with a hook that hangs on the door. You can just use them that way, or my way.
I cut off the hook flush with the rim of the cupholder. Then drilled a single hole in the bottom-center for a #10 stainless philips sheet-metal screw. Then I used an awl to make a pilot screw-hole throuugh the console's carpet & plastic skin so I could fastened the cupholder near the front of the center-console tray.
It isn't a really super-strong attachment but I'm not trying to tie down a spare tire here. It's plenty sturdy enough for cups, cans & bottles. On my nicest 240D, I decided to replace the original rectangle of tan carpet, and save it from possible stains and other damage caused by prolonged cupholder use. I used a matching piece, cut from an extra damaged tan floormat I had laying around. Or you can use any small scrap of carpet you prefer. Then if some future owner is offended by my non-factory cupholder, they can remove it and reinstall the original carpet to hide the tiny screw-hole.
It sure beats drinks fallng over on my seats, shifter or window-switches!

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