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Old 10-18-2009, 07:24 PM
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Ummm.

Yes, with several rebuilds..
I would venture to say at least four top-end rebuilds with the fourth timed around the million mile mark. Two bottom-end rebuilds.
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:53 PM
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I would venture to say at least four top-end rebuilds with the fourth timed around the million mile mark. Two bottom-end rebuilds.
I never understood the logic of doing "top end" rebuilds only on these engines, at least not on the 61X.
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Old 10-18-2009, 09:45 PM
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With virtually no experience on the earlier iron-head configurations, I should have referenced my remarks to the 60X series. I do know of 61X folks that have done the opposite - re-did the bottom-end bearings and nothing to the head other than pressure testing and polishing the camshaft.
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I read somewhere that if cars were maintained like aircraft, most of the cars from the 1950's would still be driving around. I'm sure this is true, but I looked up the operating costs for a Cessna 172, and the numbers seem to point to about 3/4 of a man-hour of maintenance for each flight hour, something most car owners would never put up with.
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Old 10-18-2009, 10:29 PM
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With virtually no experience on the earlier iron-head configurations, I should have referenced my remarks to the 60X series. I do know of 61X folks that have done the opposite - re-did the bottom-end bearings and nothing to the head other than pressure testing and polishing the camshaft.
That makes sense for the Al head engines where the bottom end is likely to last longer that the head. On the 61X engines, it probably makes the most sense to redo the entire engine by the time the heads need work (usually well over 300K miles, not withstanding and catastrophic failures).
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Old 10-18-2009, 10:32 PM
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I read somewhere that if cars were maintained like aircraft, most of the cars from the 1950's would still be driving around. I'm sure this is true, but I looked up the operating costs for a Cessna 172, and the numbers seem to point to about 3/4 of a man-hour of maintenance for each flight hour, something most car owners would never put up with.
Hopefully it wouldn't be that extreme, simply repair/replace every part that looks like it's considering failing before it actually fails. Repeat as necessary until you run out of patience, interest, or money.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:18 AM
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Hopefully it wouldn't be that extreme, simply repair/replace every part that looks like it's considering failing before it actually fails. Repeat as necessary until you run out of patience, interest, or money.
Craig, are you talking about cars, or women? about the same.


With our throw away society mentality, nothing will endure for the duration that was built into a product. Take a look at the vehicles on the road, majority are new. not many older than 10yrs.

original owner loves and baby`s his new pride and joy for less than 3 yrs.
second owner maybe 4 or 5 yrs, by now it is looking a little shabby.
third owner buys it and treats it as an old beater, 2 to 3 yrs it gets junked.

Buy new, trade it off for a new one while it is still worth something. then stay in debt making payments all their lives.

Maintain the old car, replacing parts staying just ahead of the next break Down, or totally go through it to keep it at the peak of dependability. still will be ahead of the game compared to buying new. chances are the value won`t be worth the investment of new parts, especially if it`s in a fender bender and the insurance wants to total it.

I prefere to maintain my aging fleet. as far as old goes, today I have owned my Datsun King Cab 28 yrs and 456,900 miles.

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Old 10-19-2009, 08:43 AM
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I read somewhere that if cars were maintained like aircraft, most of the cars from the 1950's would still be driving around. I'm sure this is true, but I looked up the operating costs for a Cessna 172, and the numbers seem to point to about 3/4 of a man-hour of maintenance for each flight hour, something most car owners would never put up with.
Yes just like they kept the cars in Cuba.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:07 AM
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Buy new, trade it off for a new one while it is still worth something. then stay in debt making payments all their lives.

Maintain the old car, replacing parts staying just ahead of the next break Down, or totally go through it to keep it at the peak of dependability. still will be ahead of the game compared to buying new. chances are the value won`t be worth the investment of new parts, especially if it`s in a fender bender and the insurance wants to total it.

I prefere to maintain my aging fleet. as far as old goes, today I have owned my Datsun King Cab 28 yrs and 456,900 miles.

Charlie
I agree, there is still too much easy credit out there (especially for cars). If we cut way back on auto and consumer credit, we would be ahead in the long run.

I agree that keeping an old car running involves spending more than you can sell it for, but that only matters if you are planning on selling it. I'll let my estate worry about selling my toys.

That truck may be some kind of record. Are Datsun parts readily available?
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:21 AM
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time, care, maintenance

My uncle has a 1979 Caterpillar 920 wheel loader that neared 20,000 hours before an engine rebuild. He always keeps up on maintnance, off road fuel to his transfer tank, filtered three times (station pump, transfer tank pump, once on the machine at the fuel filter).

Motor is out for rebuild and the Cat looks a little naked. Probably $8k for the motor rebuild. $5k salvage machine. $12k in good running order.

That's the trouble, that -$1,000 is hard to overcome without the emotional attachment.
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