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compress ignite 11-19-2009 08:04 PM

Suicidal Tendancys
 
"Riding a Bicycle/Moped/Motor-Cycle anywhere in/near the Metro Atlanta Area is a Death Wish !"

['Having stated the Obvious...I used to ride a Motorcycle from Kennesaw to
The Southern Tech area of "Mayretta" and back Daily in 1986]
('Much younger and STUPIDER.)

If youse gotta drive the Diesel ,plug in the block heater @ the house + @ Work.

Or Hoof It.

crs82 11-19-2009 08:06 PM

Just to reiterate...I do bike and quite often. On the truly freezing days and rainy days (of which we have had quite a few over the last two months, 25 in. in two days in October) I, of course, would need to drive around. The question is whether it would be better to do that in a Mercedes-Benz diesel or just a car. :D I'm now often having to leave work and run errands around town, where I know the car will be adequately exercised. That short jaunt to the office is where I'm getting stumped. And I'm not going to bike to work, realize I need my car, bike back home, most likely need a shower then fire up the car.:)
Which type of vehicle would do better? Any real-life anecdotes?

engatwork 11-19-2009 08:40 PM

I ran into the same thing. I went from driving one way 75 miles to a mile and a half. I rode the bicycle the other day and the tire blew out before I could ride it back home. It was dry rotted. I've been driving the 1997 Ford F150 (sacrifical car/farm truck). I've got to put some new tires on the bicycle and I'll get back on it. After the blow out I walked/pushed it home and the commute still only took about 20 minutes. I ought to just walk. 1/2 of the trip is through the woods that we own:).
The Mercedes just sit in the garage. I'm not as worried about ruining the Ford as much as the MB.

diametricalbenz 11-19-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crs82 (Post 2343330)
Just to reiterate...I do bike and quite often. On the truly freezing days and rainy days (of which we have had quite a few over the last two months, 25 in. in two days in October) I, of course, would need to drive around. The question is whether it would be better to do that in a Mercedes-Benz diesel or just a car. :D I'm now often having to leave work and run errands around town, where I know the car will be adequately exercised. That short jaunt to the office is where I'm getting stumped. And I'm not going to bike to work, realize I need my car, bike back home, most likely need a shower then fire up the car.:)
Which type of vehicle would do better? Any real-life anecdotes?

I drive nearly the same distance to work and I am driving my Ram 2500 diesel which is yielding about 10mpg when it's usually 20mpg. The engine barely gets to operating temperature before I have to shut it off.

As much fun as a diesel might be it seems like an aluminum block Honda might be a better choice which can be at full operating temperature in 3 minutes or so.

Skippy 11-19-2009 10:13 PM

I know a guy who lives less than a mile from his work and still drives his 1978 Firebird. In that use he's been getting a little under 5 mpg.

I've also been dealing with military vehicles that are subjected to infrequent short trips as almost all of their use. We had a 15 ton stake truck in the shop the other day that's 15 years old with 2700 miles on it. No, it's not in good shape. Nor were the pair of sub 3000 mile Hummvees I worked on today. Short trips are rough on vehicles.

So, if you're dead set on driving to work with that short of a commute, buy the cheapest running POS you can find and run it until it quits. Repeat as needed.

patbob 11-20-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crs82 (Post 2342382)
My commute is only 1.5 miles!

1.5 miles isn't far enough to completely warm the engine, much less get the oil all the way up to temp nor the entireity of the cooling system.

When I drove my gasser 1.5 miles to work, I had all sorts of problems (water in oil, undetected coolant system leak) that were all related to the gasser not warming up on the short commute. A diesel will be worse. Just make sure to take it out on long drives weekly -- long enough to bring the entire cooling system and oil up to operating temperature. My problems started when I started driving the other car for weekend errand runs, leaving my car as a daily driver. Riding my bike instead of driving was a better option I did for many years.

crs82 11-20-2009 11:21 PM

I wish MARTA had a route near me!! Problem solved.
I would also buy a motorcycle, but my better half has absolutely nixed that idea, no matter what my life insurance policy is worth. :rolleyes: Understand, Atlanta drivers are mostly insane (I can say that, I'm a native).
I think a gasser econobox is going to be my best bet. I would love an MB diesel, but maybe a 190 2.3 would fit the bill better.

Colorado220 11-20-2009 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 2342387)
get a bicycle

I agree.

okyoureabeast 11-20-2009 11:45 PM

What about a 50cc scooter?

Nevermind BIKE you fool ;)

t walgamuth 11-21-2009 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300GD (Post 2342600)
With either engine type, your commute probably isn't long enough to get your oil up to operating temp, which in my mind is the bigger problem, vs. efficiency. Your engine temp gauge may reach full operating temp, but oil temp will lag behind that somewhat. This means you should ideally change your oil quite frequently, which gets expensive, but generally even more expensive with a diesel (greater capacity). I have the same problem; I'm currently living in an apartment during the week that is barely a mile from my work.

To the suggestions of walking or cycling, I've considered that, but I have to lug my laptop both directions every day, and the heavy vehicle traffic would bother me as a pedestrian or cyclist, from a safety standpoint. There is also no bike rack at the office. Then there's inclement weather, darkness, etc.

This is correct.

Just take it out for a half hour drive at road speeds once or twice a month and you will be fine. That will burn off the water that has accumulated in the oil.

TchTchr 11-21-2009 08:33 AM

My Mom had a 1 mile commute for years driving a 1971 Cheyenne pickup with a 350 4 bbl. When I bought the truck from my parents, that low mileage engine was on the end of its life. Maybe synthetic oil would have helped? I fully understand battling vehicles riding a bike - we have coal trucks here. Even though I love my diesels, I would go the pos gasser route.

JEBalles 11-21-2009 02:02 PM

Yeah, if you're going to drive (even though it looks like a fine bike ride), block heater, and run it in a low gear (or S/L if you get an auto), synthetic oil. That and the weekend drives. Does not seem ideal, definitely low mileage and extra maintenance. I wouldn't go the POS gasser route, I'm too prejudiced for that.

Shawn T. W. 11-21-2009 04:14 PM

I run my 240D 3.5 miles to work each way, 4 days a week, I work a split shift also . . . if it is colder than 40 in the am I plug in my block heater which brings up the temp to 60C. I also drive it to church 3 times a week 4 mi each way . . . once a week I go to "town" for groceries about 28 mi oneway . . . once ever few months I take a road trip of 200 - 1000 mi . . . I have averaged over 30 mph in the last 5000 mi . . . worst tank was 24, best was over 33 . . . nothing wrong with taking the long way home once in a while, or a Sunday afternoon drive . . .

cth350 11-22-2009 09:46 AM

Take the scenic route home at night. -CTH

soothappens 11-22-2009 11:19 AM

Buy a 70"s era subaru 4 cylinder engine 40mpg 12 gal tank fill it once every 5 months. If you can find one , everything comes pre rusted including exhaust. Engines are indestructible. Built by Fuji Heavy Industries (think tonka ). Heat and air are no problem as the size of the cabin makes the newer smart cars seem large!

You can get one cheaper than a bike maintenence cost is about the same and if it breaks who cares it was on its way to the crusher when you bought it.

Get your tetnus shot and a "this is not abandoned " sign and have at it !

Save the Benz for dates and weekends.


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