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Dobroman 12-04-2009 01:27 PM

Diesel cap question
 
I have this 84 300D and
I am wondering what could be causing diesel to be leaking from the gas cap (or diesel cap). There is a small amount of diesel showing it self on the paint around the door to cap and a some diesel sitting in the compartment. Not a lot but I don't think that this is right.
Is the cap bad or is it some kink of pressure issue in the system?

Jimmy

snookwhaler 12-04-2009 01:31 PM

You probably just need a new seal. Or you can replace the cap.

Dobroman 12-04-2009 01:37 PM

Thanks , I'll try that . It makes sense to me.

dadette123 12-04-2009 01:40 PM

check your tank vent

whunter 12-04-2009 01:41 PM

Answer
 
The engine oil fill cap is identical = you can swap them. :)

Another possible answer = The fuel tank vent may be plugged.



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Dobroman 12-04-2009 09:10 PM

Thanks, where is the vent for the fuel tank?

charmalu 12-04-2009 09:17 PM

Here is a link to the oil cap seal

http://www.allpartsexpress.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1984-MERCEDES--BENZ-300dt--/--L5--998cc--3.0l--Diesel--Fi--Turbo-Engine--Seals--Gaskets--Sets&yearid=1984%40%401984&makeid=MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40X&engineid=1193789%40%40300D T++%2F+L5%2D2998cc+3%2E0L+DIESEL+FI++Turbo%40%40300DT&catid=Engine+Seals%2C+Gaskets+%26+Sets%40%40En gine+Seals%2C+Gaskets+%26+Sets&subcatid=Oil+Filler+Cap+Gasket@@Oil+Filler+Cap+Gasket&mode=PA

here is the fuel cap seal

http://www.allpartsexpress.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1984-MERCEDES--BENZ-300dt--/--L5--998cc--3.0l--Diesel--Fi--Turbo-Exhaust--Fuel--Tank&yearid=1984%40%401984&makeid=MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40X&engineid=1193789%40%40300D T++%2F+L5%2D2998cc+3%2E0L+DIESEL+FI++Turbo%40%40300DT&catid=Exhaust+%26+Fuel+Tank%40%40Exhaust+%26+F uel+Tank&subcatid=Fuel+Filler+Cap+Seal@@Fuel+Filler+Cap+Seal&mode=PA

Much cheaper than this

http://www.allpartsexpress.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1984-MERCEDES--BENZ-300dt--/--L5--998cc--3.0l--Diesel--Fi--Turbo-Exhaust--Fuel--Tank&yearid=1984%40%401984&makeid=MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40X&engineid=1193789%40%40300D T++%2F+L5%2D2998cc+3%2E0L+DIESEL+FI++Turbo%40%40300DT&catid=Exhaust+%26+Fuel+Tank%40%40Exhaust+%26+F uel+Tank&subcatid=Fuel+Filler+Cap@@Fuel+Filler+Cap&mode=PA

The vent is under the car on the drivers side. It is sort of forward of the L/R wheel but behind it. It has a bell shaped end pointing down.
Charlie

Dobroman 12-04-2009 09:37 PM

Thanks Charlie! I'll check that out. Maybe I can keep that diesel off my paint.

BTW My heater is now working the way it was designed. It is really nice. Changed the thermostat and cut a hole in the dash mat so the sensor would work and got a piece of pipe insulation from Lowes and put it where the old foam hose was missing behind the glove box. :)

my123ca 10-02-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter (Post 2353756)
The engine oil fill cap is identical = you can swap them. :)

Is this also true with the plastic cap? Just lost my original fuel cap. Fortunately i have an extra plastic oil filler cap. It looks smaller but it went in.

whunter 10-02-2010 03:02 PM

Yes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by my123ca (Post 2556964)
Is this also true with the plastic cap? Just lost my original fuel cap. Fortunately i have an extra plastic oil filler cap. It looks smaller but it went in.

yes.

panZZer 10-02-2010 04:13 PM

You need to clean the drain hole out at the bottom of the door pocket, running the plastic coated steel cable down thru is good for that.

vstech 10-02-2010 11:05 PM

actually, the oil and fuel caps are not exactly identical.
put the oil cap on your valve cover, and the handle aligns with the valve cover, the fuel cap sits kittywonkous.
also, the gasket is smaller on the gas cap.
they are indeed interchangeable thought and both will function well in either location.

my123ca 10-02-2010 11:55 PM

Thanks for the replies. Going on a long trip with the wife and doter tomorrow with a full tank of fuel. I dont want them complaining of diesel smell. Will go to the dealer to get the right part on monday.

charmalu 10-03-2010 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2557252)
actually, the oil and fuel caps are not exactly identical.
put the oil cap on your valve cover, and the handle aligns with the valve cover, the fuel cap sits kittywonkous.
also, the gasket is smaller on the gas cap.
they are indeed interchangeable thought and both will function well in either location.

This is true. My oil cap wasn`t inline with the VC like I had seen on other engines. I thought the two pieces of the cap had twisted around.

It wasn`t till i was at PNP (of all places) that I noticed that the oil cap has OEL stamped on them (the metal one`s), and it was in line with the VC.

definately don`t want a plastic cap, the one I had leaked and made a mess. and the metal caps look better and will polish up nice. :D.

They aren`t available, so grap them when you see them.

Charlie

tangofox007 10-03-2010 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2557252)
they are indeed interchangeable thought and both will function well in either location.

Really? Does the oil cap have the pressure relief vent like the fuel cap?

"Fit" is one thing; "Function" is another.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dobroman (Post 2353744)
I am wondering what could be causing diesel to be leaking from the gas cap (or diesel cap).

Failure to engage both lugs on the cap is one possible cause.


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