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i was a fool
what can i say?
i'm not always so good to my cars i have a 1985 MB300sd with 181K on it lovely car not so long ago i was driving from wisconsin to ohio in the middle of the night it was late and i was tired and wanted very much to get home my tranny started to slip i kept driving it got worse still kept driving about 100 miles got so bad i was only going about 35-45 on the interstate or less got home slept checked in the morning and found that my fluid was very low leaky trans oil pan gasket replaced the oil and it seemed to be all good 2 weeks pass it's started doing it again reverse is fine starts out fine 1-2 is good 2-3 lags winds out really far unless i drop my foot off the gas pedal then it shifts but has little power 3-4 same thing only worse trans oil smells burnt i know this is bad a friend said to take the tranny off and just start looking for bad parts and replace them it feels like the clutch plates are glazed except that it's an automatic is it fixable by a competent amateur? is it fried? if it means a replacement i can do it if i can find a not stupid expensive rebuild any ideas? my thanks
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The shifting sounds like modulator(s) problems. However and in view of the clutch plate situation, the fried plates (bands) could also be causing the same problem. I would guess they are toast.
Unless you have extensive working knowledge of MB auto trannies, I would not recommend attacking this particular problem yourself. If you ever need to come as far as Cincy for a good repair, I can recommend Precision Motorcars.
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I think auto transmissions are "high dark magic". I have no idea how or even why they work. And I think that is true of most people. Good luck.
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I have one, if only you lived closer.... I would just find a used one and swap it.
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when it was slipping you burned the clutches up - and if you have never been inside of one than get a junk yard unit and swap it out == jz
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TWO big ifs
IF it's a 722.31X series, it's not all too complicated internally as far as automatics go and ...
IF you are competent and confident in your abilities, have a spotlessly clean area to work on it and can get the ATSG book on your trans, it can be done at home. I helped a friend rebuild a Chrysler 3 speed but we had all the manuals and parts at hand. It's still going but it's not a daily driver.
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you could say your tranny bleed to death & then you tried to refill the dead corps with fresh blood. Much easier to just replace it with a good one. Its not worth the effort to try & rebuild one thats been run out of oil. Who knows what damage has been done. When you get another one, they may require the old one as a changeover. If not use it as a boat anchor.
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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort.... 1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket. 1980 300D now parts car 800k miles 1984 300D 500k miles 1987 250td 160k miles English import 2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles 1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo. 1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion. Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving |
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I am closer and I have one for you, if you want one. I'm not sure of it's operation, though. I drove the car, but only about 15 mph. It felt fine, but I'm not an auto guy, only one of our five cars is auto. PM me if you want it.
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Im 15 minutes west of Cleveland if you want a lead on a tranny, PM me. I know of a few.
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1981 300 SD 213k miles "Stock for now" 1999 Super Duty 7.3L 113k miles 1981 300 SD 180k miles "Heavily modified" SOLD |
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A good bone-yard unit is probably going to be your best bet for a reasonably priced repair...
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1984 300 Coupe TurboDiesel Silver blue paint over navy blue interior 2nd owner & 2nd engine in an otherwise 99% original unmolested car ~210k miles on the clock 1986 Ford F250 4x4 Supercab Charcoal & blue two tone paint over burgundy interior Banks turbo, DRW, ZF-5 & SMF conversion 152k on the clock - actual mileage unknown |
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I've bought entire cars for the price of a used transmission. Maybe go that route, sell some other parts and get a free trans?
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parts car
actually that is what i would like to do
i need too many little things around the inside of the car if have seen rebuilt trans for around $1400 that hurts anyone near NE ohio have a parts car they wanna get off of? i am exploring as many routes as possible
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1985 MB 300SD 1982 MB 300SD 1977 Jawa 634 California w/ sidecar |
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Best wishes to you my friend. I'll keep this in mind when I am driving and I start hearing a problem. Edit: Are you in Ashtabula?
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If you're game...
Drain the fluid, drop the pan, remove the filter and the valve body. Have a very clean work area. Take sharp pictures of everything from multiple angles before and after taking each section apart. Don't rely on your memory. Slowly take apart the valve body -- taking pictures -- and clean everything. The key thing is to locate all the little ball bearings and other tiny parts and springs back into their proper places. I hope that will get you moving again at least for a while. Worth a shot. If you do a search on the site there are links to manuals with exploded views of the valve body. I found, though, that the diagrams did not exactly match how mine (300 sdl) was set up, hence the numerous photographs. Take your time. Quote:
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It's not in the valve body.....
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