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Old 01-09-2010, 08:46 AM
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Congrats on Marlene the Wonder Wagon. She is a wonder.....
The rough idle is more accurately a too slow idle...maybe 250rpm or something barely faster than the cranking speed. A slight mash on the smoke pedal and it smooths out...10-15 seconds of running and she idles normally.

I know without a doubt that one dead GP at anything below 40F and she'd be sitting until it was replaced. Been there a couple of times...

To look at her, you'd probably wonder why she's still running at all. Gawd, I flog that car and she gives and gives and gives. Like now, there are 6-8 bags of range cubes and a bag of dog food in the rear. No bath in over a year....well, you saw her at Joseph's GTG. Hopefully I'll have my shop finished in the not-too-distant future and will have a hospitable place to work on the fleet.

FWIW Jimmy, I bought another Euro 240 the other day. Really rough body and a backyard a/c installation but has a good engine that I can put in my other Euro with the bad head.
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:49 AM
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We'll see how mine fares. It's still 22F right now and I'll go out in a bit and give it a start.
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:16 AM
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Brrrr....where's global warming when you need it?
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Cold starts?

I am not trying to do a one up on anybody but I am trying to find out what I am missing.

I get 15 to 20 degree's every night this time of year and I never sweat the start. The white ghost sits outside and it is dark when I start her every morning for my commute. 1 cycle and imediate start. Even when it gets below 0 I still do not have an issue.

It seems to run quieter and smoother at first start than after it warms up.

I only have 132k on her so I suspect when she gets a bit older I will see these issues. Would that be the case. Just curious....

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Old 01-09-2010, 11:42 AM
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I get 15 to 20 degree's every night this time of year and I never sweat the start.
Around here (north central Texas) we rarely see temps as low as they were yesterday, are today and predicted for tomorrow so, I never get many opportunities for cold start tests.

Hell, I even had frost on my cows this morning and the dogs walked on water!
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Old 01-09-2010, 11:59 AM
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It got down to about 14 algores here overnight.

The 300D with 5w40 started right up as always (still has the original glow plugs).

The 240D with 15w40 in it started up on the second attempt, but it definitely wasn't happy about it. I thought I might be able to get away with 15w40 over the winter, but maybe I need to reconsider.
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:07 PM
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Just curious if any or all of you guys depress the accelerator one time after the glowplug light turns off, but before cranking?

I do it occassionally, but temps really don't get that low in san diego to matter much.
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:19 PM
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Well, yall had me curious so outside I went. Temp measured anywhere from 15.7 to 21 depending on sun or shade.
White wagon currently has donated it's battery to Smash for winter.
I've been plugging in Smash the last couple of days, but since I'm not working today I didn't plug him in last night. I let it glow about 20 seconds after the light went out and he sputtered to life. He wasn't happy at all, but he started.
Let the Batmobile glow about 10-15 seconds after the light went out. It started so fast that all the fun was taken away.
China??? Seriously??? I didn't even bother........ Like me, China is a warm weather creature.

BTW, the seats were so cold in the Batmobile that a search party has been summoned......
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:51 PM
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So here's what happened. I glowed, waited some seconds after the light went out and started it. I had to give it some pedal to stay running. I took my foot off and it fell dead. On the second attempt, I did the same thing during glowing, except I kept my foot on the pedal for about a minute. After that, it stayed running, just stumbled a little though. I'll try to post my little video later.

I also found a blue block of ice in my windshield washer fluid tank. You don't see that often here in Houston.
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Being a noob and worrying about cold starts, I've been plugging the euro in for an hour or so before my kid takes it to school every morning. Our mornings so far have been in the 20-30F range. The other night he forgot to stretch the exptension cord out to the car before he went to bed, so when I went outside to plug it in at 5 a.m. and still found it neatly coiled, I decided to see whether all this plugging in was worth it. The car fired after one glow as it always does at 24 degrees. We usually get some 12-14 degree mornings in late Jan-early Feb, but until then, or maybe not even then, no mo' grid power for Lyla

BTW, we named her Lyla. The plate number is LYL9, but "Lil 9" just sounded way too GEH-toh.
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I am not trying to do a one up on anybody but I am trying to find out what I am missing.

I get 15 to 20 degree's every night this time of year and I never sweat the start. The white ghost sits outside and it is dark when I start her every morning for my commute. 1 cycle and imediate start. Even when it gets below 0 I still do not have an issue.

It seems to run quieter and smoother at first start than after it warms up.

I only have 132k on her so I suspect when she gets a bit older I will see these issues. Would that be the case. Just curious....

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I bought my '99 E300TD new in Omaha, Nebraska, from MB. It came with heated seats. Saved $3,500.00 versus buying it in Texas at the time.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a battery-strength issue. If the battery can't crank the engine long enough AND at a high enough RPM - you're going to experience non-starting troubles.

My '02 7.3 PowerStroke diesel utilized in-tandem Motorcraft 750CCA batteries, as original equipment. Checking them recently @ Auto Zone, one was totally dead since it was original equipment, so even though the PSD will start on one battery rated @ 762 CCAs according to Auto Zone's free battery testor - the dead one was dragging the start at and under 30*. Since they were already 7 years old, I bit the bullet and bought two new Motorcrafts with 850 CCAs. Boy does she start like a champ now! The other morning in the Delta of Mississippi, it got down to the low teens - no block heater overnight since I parked overnight at a Mississippi State Park campground directly on the Mississippi River. Started like a dream! Motorcrafts are known to last up to 10 yeras, BTW. So the $124.99 plus tax each for 850 CCAs was worth it to me.
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:05 PM
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Just curious if any or all of you guys depress the accelerator one time after the glowplug light turns off, but before cranking?

I do it occassionally, but temps really don't get that low in san diego to matter much.
Pumping the accelerator shouldn't do anything to improve starting on a diesel.
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