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Old 01-09-2010, 06:12 PM
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I was just changing out the 3rd failed bosch of the winter on my car, looking at the pile of 9 bad bosch units I have amassed over the last year+ wondering what to do with them, and marveling at how good a job Bosch and napa were doing of getting my money....
Thats odd, mine last years, maybe you have some carbon built up in there Are you sure your relay is turning off?

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Old 01-09-2010, 06:19 PM
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Possible swollen tips is the problem with autolites.
LOTS of discussion on the oilburners.net site under the 6.9 and 7.3 IDI section.
MANY people have reported the swollen tips. Some people never experience it. When it happens, its a real pain.
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Bad Autolites (etc.)

Recycle the suckers into compression guage fittings 'bout all I think they're good for even new
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I think when a swollen tip is found the injector on that cylinder should be spray checked. My brother in law did some experiments with plugs outside the engine. Wetting them excessivly they would swell in his experiment. They were volkswagon bosh glow plugs. Not autolight or the nortoriously famous o champion glow plugs.

I also believe some of the glow plugs for 6.2 and 6.5 labelled acdelco are coming out of china and have been known to swell unusually. We will have to watch for the two good german labels switching production to china. Probably inevatable.

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my relay seems to function properly. I reamed them last fall, and the 3 that have failed since have been clean and easily removed.

I am on the same thought train as Barry. I think it is time to do injector tips. but all my bosch are made in france. that is prolly the problem.:p
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Old 01-10-2010, 05:16 PM
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i am from eastern pa. did you do the work? if not, who did? i can always use good help & advice with my 300D
No I didn't. More money than I wanted to spend, but after driving it was well worth it.
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RyanZ, you can always do those jobs yourself with not much of a possibility of issues. Between the archive information and the active site it would be hard to go wrong. All items were just standard maintenance really.
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my relay seems to function properly. I reamed them last fall, and the 3 that have failed since have been clean and easily removed.

I am on the same thought train as Barry. I think it is time to do injector tips. but all my bosch are made in france. that is prolly the problem.:p
I purchased eight glow plugs for a 6.5 gm diesel last night. The final decision was to buy from the american firm that originally made the delco plugs for ten to twenty years. They are wellmans (go5o) with a full year warranty. I could have picked up a set of acdelco for thirty two dollars. Forty five anytime. The wellmans were sixty two dollars for eight.

They claim they have refined those plugs curently in many ways. The biggest thing to me is they do not swell like the current unimproved chinese delco plugs as far as I can tell.

Bosh makes plugs for this engine as well. I just never ran across anyone else using them in the 6.2 and 6.5 engines. It is hard to decide what to buy on occassion.

It has probably been awhile since I purchased an american built non relabeled product for cars. What is really strange is wellman make aftermarket glow plugs for mercedes and I have never heard a refference to them on this site before. Their private labels are unknown to me as well and they are made in Kansas. Been in the business for sixty years. Look their website up. Wellman glow plugs did it for me. Correction. They are just entering the market or about to with the old mercedes designed pencil type glow plugs. Now makes sense why I never heard of them before.

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Does anyone have any experience with Beck/Arnley glow plugs? I bought a set for my 240D from ********, and they seem to work just fine. They are CHEAP and made in Germany!

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Yea... They make a huge difference.....Same here. I had 2 autolites in mine. The car would stumble when started. I replaced those 2 with Bosch. Now all 5 are Bosch and they all read the same on the ohm meter. The car starts fine now and settles into a nice smooth idle. No more stumble on start up.

Edit: #5 had me cussing for a second or 2.
Haha, you sure seem to cuss a lot when working on your car.
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Old 01-10-2010, 10:18 PM
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RyanZ, you can always do those jobs yourself with not much of a possibility of issues. Between the archive information and the active site it would be hard to go wrong. All items were just standard maintenance really.
I don't have a garage. January isn't the best time of year to work outside. And, I have only one car.
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I don't have a garage. January isn't the best time of year to work outside. And, I have only one car.

That will tend to do it unless you can find a temporary heated space. To control costs is one reason to drive older cars. Too much paid for service defeats the Inherant savings. On a daily driver just break up the total work into smaller segments to keep it on the road,

Combined with these cars being fairly easy to work on for the average guy. They may be about the last generation of cars to qualify this way.. I have even put a couple aside for my grandchildren.

I do some work on our newer cars as well. Without working on the older ones over the years I might not have been able to. I also do not have a crystal ball for the future.

My thoughts are they will not be usable because of many factiors down the road. World cost of energy in north america is one possible and probable senario at some point alone. We pay about 4.50 per american gallon of diesel at the moment for example up here iin Canada.

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