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Old 01-11-2010, 08:07 PM
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Finished the axles today with one problem.

Drained the differential, unbolted a bunch of stuff, swore a bunch of times at getting the axles out, swore a bunch of times getting the axle that I didn't rub off it's protective paint on, reinstalled the differential cover, screw in the rear floor mount, broke a bolt off in the mount, bolted wheels back on, and cleaned up the garage.

Labor of love. My work is not finished sadly. I still have to fill up the pumpkin and extract a bolt from the rubber mounting unit (A1233511142). The stupid floor bolt ripped off.

I have the 3 others in there thread locked with medium strength loctite. I'm almost tempted to let it go, but my OCD just doesn't allow me to let that slide.

The screws in question are N910106008007. Fortunately there is enough that I can grab onto and pull out with some needle nose pliers.

Looks like i'll be email phil with a question for the screw size.

Also I want to thank Dave Morrison for his excellent guide as well as everyone else on this forum. It all really gave me the courage to go forward with this on my own. My normal indy was unable to work on it since the crazy snow storm we just had covered the mini road to his work garage and the other guy in town wanted $100/hr for 5 hours of work which at that price warranted me finally do something major on my own.
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Going back to the original post: "Can you get the vac to blow instead?" No. Vacuums are low pressure so they by nature "suck" and nature abhors them.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:44 PM
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Drained the differential, unbolted a bunch of stuff, swore a bunch of times at getting the axles out, swore a bunch of times getting the axle that I didn't rub off it's protective paint on, reinstalled the differential cover, screw in the rear floor mount, broke a bolt off in the mount, bolted wheels back on, and cleaned up the garage.

Labor of love. My work is not finished sadly. I still have to fill up the pumpkin and extract a bolt from the rubber mounting unit (A1233511142). The stupid floor bolt ripped off.

I have the 3 others in there thread locked with medium strength loctite. I'm almost tempted to let it go, but my OCD just doesn't allow me to let that slide.

The screws in question are N910106008007. Fortunately there is enough that I can grab onto and pull out with some needle nose pliers.

Looks like i'll be email phil with a question for the screw size.

Also I want to thank Dave Morrison for his excellent guide as well as everyone else on this forum. It all really gave me the courage to go forward with this on my own. My normal indy was unable to work on it since the crazy snow storm we just had covered the mini road to his work garage and the other guy in town wanted $100/hr for 5 hours of work which at that price warranted me finally do something major on my own.
Saving $500 is woth a broken Bolt!
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:48 PM
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good job! sorry about the bolt.
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I love it when being cheap pays off with invaluable experience.

If not for my own innate cheapness I wouldn't know squat about cars.
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:37 AM
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I love it when being cheap pays off with invaluable experience.

If not for my own innate cheapness I wouldn't know squat about cars.
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:42 AM
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Good work! That sounds like a tough job (knock on wood, the way things are going I'll need to do it soon ...). There's always got to be that one bolt that breaks or strips to postpone the completion of your hard work. Saving money is always nice, but the pride of having done that yourself counts for something too!
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:45 AM
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It's whatever on the bolt. I just need to find an extractor. Which i don't think I have.

Maybe i'll get lucky. Grandpa had the oddest collection of tools. Like seriously why would he buy 2 complete weller soldering iron kits? And I have a 1950s era staple gun that is completely cast in chrome. CHROME!

Any other types I can try before I go to the barn and look for an extractor to pull that son of a bolt out? There is a little bit of metal I can grab on to. I dropped the mount, but I feel like I might need to just give in and pull it off of the differential.

Funny how being cheap cost me the bolt I'm kinda worried I over torqued the axle spacer bolt since I didn't use (or own) a torque wrench.
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:49 AM
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Good job Beast, and definitely enough work to let you know that you really accomplished something. Nice!!
I tell you, that Dave Morrison just gives and gives and gives to our resource pool. Many thanks to him for years to come........
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:50 AM
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Funny how being cheap cost me the bolt I'm kinda worried I over torqued the axle spacer bolt since I didn't use (or own) a torque wrench.
Monday morning QB here ... definitely get one. You can get a decent one for not that expensive at Harbor Freight or Sears. I recently sheared off a motor mount bolt because I was too dumb to USE the torque wrench I had sitting in my garage. It was a HUGE PITA to get out. I think the money for a torque wrench is worth just knowing nothing major is on too tight or too loose.
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:58 AM
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Monday morning QB here ... definitely get one. You can get a decent one for not that expensive at Harbor Freight or Sears. I recently sheared off a motor mount bolt because I was too dumb to USE the torque wrench I had sitting in my garage. It was a HUGE PITA to get out. I think the money for a torque wrench is worth just knowing nothing major is on too tight or too loose.
I ended up buying one too, but it only goes up to 80 ft/ lbs and worse it doesn't have Nm on it. Some weird Kg markings.

That and using the locking nut is a pain. I just hate it. Maybe i'll learn one day. I do remember seeing your thread too.

I'm going to pull the wheels off tomorrow and make sure it's torqued correctly. I don't want to go onto the highway to have the bolt sear off or something like that.
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I think the money for a torque wrench is worth just knowing nothing major is on too tight or too loose.
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Old 01-12-2010, 01:02 AM
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Damn I was times 2ed by Jimbo. Looks like I'll retorque those nuts
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:14 PM
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Drained the differential, unbolted a bunch of stuff, swore a bunch of times at getting the axles out, swore a bunch of times getting the axle that I didn't rub off it's protective paint on, reinstalled the differential cover, screw in the rear floor mount, broke a bolt off in the mount, bolted wheels back on, and cleaned up the garage.
LOL!!

I hear you (literally)! I had my neighbors looking over the fence a couple times to see what in the hell was going on. A few of the wrenches made it half way across the yard. But I did it outside and in the rain, I was cold, etc...

I'm glad you got the bolt figured out. Those little things can get to you sometimes. Frustrating...

Good job!
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:48 PM
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LOL!!

I hear you (literally)! I had my neighbors looking over the fence a couple times to see what in the hell was going on. A few of the wrenches made it half way across the yard. But I did it outside and in the rain, I was cold, etc...

I'm glad you got the bolt figured out. Those little things can get to you sometimes. Frustrating...

Good job!

Rogue wrenches and all. Sometimes I spend a good half hour retrieving those things from their comfy spots in the sheetrock and other odd locations. Fun fun. Outside in the cold rain? Now I feel like a primmadonna! I won't even get down on the garage floor for the little rain that creeps past the door seal that I just might get wet by.

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I love it when being cheap pays off with invaluable experience.

If not for my own innate cheapness I wouldn't know squat about cars.

I feel compelled to interject here, osprey. You may be confusing cheap with intelligent, at least with regards to wrenching and DIY on these benz's. It's all about perspective. Step back and look at the entire picture. Five bennies (in the high range for an axle) on an auto with a value of what? Hmmm, sure ok. How long will it take me (including the research) to accomplish this same task? A Saturday afternoon and the investment of simple and useful tools? Overall financial outlay still a fraction. I don't know what the exact word is, but "no-brainer" comes to mind.

Speaking of which, two things that continue to boggle my mind to this day...

1) The pervasive mentality in our society, STILL, that we need to spend trailer loads of cash or credit as the first solution to every problem, irregardless of size and impact. All before exploring other, usually more logical answers.

2) How FN easy these cars are to work on! Oh and CHEAP too. OK, putting my helmet back on.

PS okyoureabeast - After you extract the offending bolt, take one of the remaining three down to your local hardware facility. My local ace has an amazing selection of bulk hardware, lots useful in automotive appllications, grade 8 and whatnot. And get this, I can buy just one if I want!!!! Have you ever heard of that?



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Old 01-12-2010, 06:18 PM
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It's whatever on the bolt. I just need to find an extractor. Which i don't think I have.
Get a stud extractor like the ones pictured in this link. http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/lis19250.html

I just had to drop the differential to replace the SLS lines. One of the bolts holding the mount to the floor was broken already when I started; I snapped of two more while trying to remove them. So I ended up extracting three broken studs, replacing them all with grade 10 hardware.

I got a somewhat similar set of the external-type extractors from Sears. Using a 3/8-inch rachet and 10-inch extension, I was able to press the extractor hard against the broken bolt stub. Once the extractor got some bite onto the bolt end, it was easy to crank it out.

Oops, here's a better example of the type of extractor I used: http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/han394100.html


One thing to keep in mind: the threads the bolt screws into are not in the body itself, but in a metal strip that fits inside the body channel. Screw the other bolt on that side of the mount tight to hold the strip fast so you can apply force effectively.
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