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Old 02-08-2010, 12:46 PM
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602 continues to heat up...

Friend of mine has a 1991 300D 2.5 (602.96x) that has been plagued with annoying overheating problems from the time he had purchased it (about 8 months ago).

The car is running regularly at about 85F on flat surfaces and about 90F at a slightest incline. It's in 100F and above territory in the mountainous terrain (which naturally he's been avoiding).

Running the heat inside the cabin brings the temps slightly down from the hot zone... but still he can't seem to locate the source of the problem.

Thus far, he's done the following trying to resolve it:
1) Replaced the cracked coolant reservoir with a better one (used, including cap)
2) Brand new water pump
3) Brand new thermostat
4) Used fan clutch but in very good shape

I guess the clogged radiator remains as a possibility... what else should he be checking?!

Also, what is the normal operating temperature for this car (around 80-85 I suspect)?!

Thanks,
James

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Old 02-08-2010, 03:30 PM
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Friend of mine has a 1991 300D 2.5 (602.96x) that has been plagued with annoying overheating problems from the time he had purchased it (about 8 months ago).

The car is running regularly at about 85F on flat surfaces and about 90F at a slightest incline. It's in 100F and above territory in the mountainous terrain (which naturally he's been avoiding).

Running the heat inside the cabin brings the temps slightly down from the hot zone... but still he can't seem to locate the source of the problem.

Thus far, he's done the following trying to resolve it:
1) Replaced the cracked coolant reservoir with a better one (used, including cap)
2) Brand new water pump
3) Brand new thermostat
4) Used fan clutch but in very good shape

I guess the clogged radiator remains as a possibility... what else should he be checking?!

Also, what is the normal operating temperature for this car (around 80-85 I suspect)?!

Thanks,
James
Isn't there an aux water pump on these 602's?

Also, you should probably do the full flush of the cooling system. That should remove scale, rust, buildup etc... it the system and allow better cooling. Diesel Giant has an excellent writeup.

How is the compression? No gasket leaks?
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:48 PM
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Isn't there an aux water pump on these 602's?
Hmmm... I don't know...?!
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:38 PM
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4) Used fan clutch but in very good shape

I would get a new one to be sure! cheap insurance.

You do have an aux. coolant pump, that could be leaking or clogged.

also check the electric fan which is on the front of the a/c coil. you can jump out the wires to be sure it works. I believe the fan is on a thermostat switch, so that switch could fail or the relay that controls it could fail.

+1 on doing a full coolant flush and refill

check that electric fan first
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:09 PM
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-aux coolant pump should not matter, it is in the heater core loop.
-I would flush out the radiator.
-I would remove the shroud and fan and make sure the fins are clean, use degreaser and a steam cleaner.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:07 AM
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I flushed my cooling system and it did not get better, if not worse.

I removed the radiator (10 minute job) and took it into a radiator shop. They boiled it out and backflushed it three times before is was clean. It cost $58 and it was the best money I ever spent.

Backyard backflushing will never clean out a plugged radiator like a shop does. It saved me hours/days of extra grief trying to diagnose overheating problems.

All my DIY flushing left me a barely adequate heater core, which was fine before I started.

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