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t walgamuth 12-08-2012 11:02 AM

OK, we got the system to level the car but the ride is very bouncy and feels totally undamped.

Am I correct in thinking this is spheres?

Also is there any way to verify before installing them that used ones are good?

Biodiesel300TD 12-08-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3062603)
OK, we got the system to level the car but the ride is very bouncy and feels totally undamped.

Am I correct in thinking this is spheres?

Also is there any way to verify before installing them that used ones are good?

Sounds like the spheres (accumulators) to me. The only test I know if is to poke around with the eraser end of a pencil into it and see if you can find a tear.

Biodiesel300TD 12-08-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by slfan1 (Post 3056105)
BioDiesel300TD,

Thank you for your answer. I had the car raised on a lift with the engine running and can confirm that the thumping noise is coming from the SLS valve. Any advise where I should procure this valve?

Thank you,
Slfan1

In Brazil, do you have junkyards with Mercedes from the late 80's through the 90's? SLS came on a lot of models through that time era and they all used the same valve. All of the wagons through that time, and a lot of the higher end sedans had SLS. That would be the cheapest way to find one. I have an extra, but shipping might make it pretty expensive. You can buy a new one from Pelican Parts for $458. Otherwise you might be able to find one close to you on ebay. You can always get one through the dealership, but get out your wallet, and prepare to leave your arm and leg as well. :P You might also be able to find a shop that works on Mercedes, and they might have a way to get one for you a little cheaper than shipping if from the US.

t walgamuth 12-08-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Biodiesel300TD (Post 3062634)
Sounds like the spheres (accumulators) to me. The only test I know if is to poke around with the eraser end of a pencil into it and see if you can find a tear.

Thanks Andrew!

floatingboy 11-02-2013 12:23 PM

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The best explanation of knocking noises from the rear comes from the manual. Scroll down to page 5 of PDF attachment.

Whiskeydan 11-16-2013 11:17 AM

I have a good flow of fluid from the return yet, the rear will not raise when moving the lever on the valve. No external leaks but the tank was empty. I fear the pump is shot.

Is it possible to have a good return flow with a bad pump?

redoubthill 04-11-2014 10:03 PM

Flow with bad pump
 
Possible, but not probable.

John m 04-20-2014 06:51 AM

R320
 
Hi, I'm new here and so far the amount of information I can see is amazing. Over the last week my 2006 R320 has started being lower in the rear in the morning. The ride is perfect and it raises when started. I'm assuming it's just the levelling valve? Is it repairable on the R Class? I don't have full airmatic suspension. If it is repairable what part numbers do I need?
John

SkyVegToph 12-07-2014 05:55 PM

Afew years late!
 
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Originally Posted by mopar65pa (Post 3023606)
Ok so I have an 82 300TD with the SLS and a bad diesel engine.

I bought a sedan engine. I was told that the "power" for the SLS pump comes from the head of the engine.

So how do I fix this problem so I can put the sedan motor in my wagon and still have a working SLS?

Ya I had to do this once... My girlfriend at the time had bad compression so she ordered a used engine... I specifically asked for a wagon engine and they assured me it was one.. got it and it had the wrong head!

If both engines are out of the car and on a stand its not so bad.. the hardest part of the job it timing the injection pump! If you do swap the heads at least you will have a new timing chain and head gasket.. but those parts are not common to replace...

Kinda fun...

Ya I am rebuilding my SLS right now... The previous owner put gas shocks in :eek: I am about to diagnose the SLS once all the body welding is finished,,, we are almost done cutting out all the rust and hand forging new metal pieces and welding them in ! It pays to have a blacksmith for a best friend!

I will try to post some pics...

I put new SLS Shocks in and new lines to the accumulators.. the system has been dry for 4 years! I will most likely need accumulators and a pump rebuild... I haven;t seen a listing for a supplier who sells the pump rebuild kits in this thread... Anyone know?

Thanks. wish me luck who knows maybe it will magically work!
:D

resto108 12-08-2014 03:07 PM

Uh, post 4?

SkyVegToph 12-08-2014 04:49 PM

size of the pressure hose under the body?
 
Hey all,

So I took the wagon off the stilts today and set her on the ground with the new SLS components... New SLS shocks (were missing when I bought it) new lines from shocks to accumulators.

The pressure line under the car body, the metal line that is about 5/16 in diameter, busted a leak and squirted all the hydro fluid out :(

Anyone know what size hose that is? The metal line that is about the size of a break line???

At least the pump seems to be working.. it built pressure!

SkyVegToph 12-17-2014 06:15 PM

valve configuration supply and return lines
 
Hey there,

So i am in the middle of replacing the metal lines under the car... the supply and return lines.. i found them to be six mm or quarter inch with the fittings slightly drilled out...

On the valve itself... is the supply from the pump the lowest fitting or the bottom fitting and the one just above it the return?

That is how they are set up on my car.. just making sure that it is right.. Searched for a while and cant find it on the forums... which one is which...

Thakns!

300TD1982 12-23-2014 02:33 PM

FSM 32-501 Level control system and inspections
 
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FSM 32-5xx covers "Level control system and inspections"
FSM 32-501 is the "Functional Description" (Parts A-D; 16 pages)
FSM 32-501D covers the "Control Equipment" (3 pages)

I have attached FSM 32-501D for you. Hope it helps.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyVegToph (Post 3420679)
Hey there,

So i am in the middle of replacing the metal lines under the car... the supply and return lines.. i found them to be six mm or quarter inch with the fittings slightly drilled out...

On the valve itself... is the supply from the pump the lowest fitting or the bottom fitting and the one just above it the return?

That is how they are set up on my car.. just making sure that it is right.. Searched for a while and cant find it on the forums... which one is which...

Thakns!


sd300td 01-31-2015 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sd300td (Post 2406874)
Good timing as my wagon began sagging a little over night recently. The PO had extensive SLS work done years ago, so the only SLS repair I've had to do is replace the resevoir itself. Darn thing developed tiny holes all over and began leaking. The resevoirs are dealer only and cost more than $400, so if you see a good used one at a yard or elsewhere, might want to pick up a spare...

Better late than never. I looked this thread up this morning before changing both accumulators. Ride got so bouncy that it just had to be done. Was a little embarrassed to see one of my posts from 2010 regarding the sagging rear. Still sags a little overnight. ... will address soon enough but for now I'm happy to have my smooth ride back.

Those 11mm bolts on the hard lines were a bit of a problem. They looked like the threads were stripped. Must have been from a previous repair. I managed to get them to hold but not without a few walk away moments. Next time those lines are getting replaced i think. ..

Maxbumpo 02-02-2015 12:38 PM

I'd like to know if anyone has thought of a clever way to properly adjust the length of the control rod (between SLS control valve lever and the rear sway bar). The FSM calls for some special tools I'm not particularly inclined to purchase.

I've got an '87 wagon and the original rod ends rotted out. Purchasing just the new ends was far cheaper than getting an entire new rod.


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