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Old 06-07-2011, 09:57 AM
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:55 AM
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Hi folks, this thread is cross-posted and I had replied on the other forum. Not trying to be a pain but some info I believe is out of date.


In particular, while I don't doubt that some US border stations do still accept fax docs, I can tell you that some absolutely won't (confirmed by my customs broker on the last transaction):

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Fax bill of sale and a copy of the registration to the Border and Customs agency (US) at least two days prior to your planned crossing. They will do a vehicle search to be certain that the car has no liens and is not stolen. Mince took 7 days as there was a holiday in there so you need to be patient.

1. US Customs and Border Protection requires you to FedEx the papers to the border crossing you intend to export the car through, including the ORIGINAL TITLE and three copies (of both sides of the title), and the bill of sale. As of late 2010, NO other transmission means is acceptable (incuding UPS envelope).

Why is this an issue? If you get to the US border station with the car and they cannot find your documents (as happened to me at midnight on a Saturday five years ago), your only recourse is that FedEx delivery confirmation. Before I pulled that out of my folder I got nothing but attitude. Once they saw that, I witnessed a pretty massive change in demeanour, as apparently losing docs gets everyone in massive ***** in USCBP. They found my docs, about 1.5 hrs later, three agents tearing apart their own office like it was a mexican motor home that smelled of skunk.

2. USCBP require that they have the title and bill of sale in hand 72 hours prior to your crossing.

3. USCBP may take exception if there is a break in the chain of conveyance of ownership. The name and signature on the title must match the name and signature of the person who sells the car to you. Beware of this if you are dealing with a curbsider who has not put the car in his name. At minimum you will probably get a hard time; worst case they will refuse to clear the car until the title is updated. My customs broker had a case like this at an Ontario crossing.

4. Some US border stations no longer process auto exports. I strongly suggest you contact the station you intend to use well in advance to confirm they will do it. (It may be indicated on their website.)

5. Most (could be all) US border stations that DO process vehicles will now only do so on the day shift, which depending on station ends at 4 p.m. or 5 p.m. This is because USCBP now designates an officer responsible for processing cars, and these positions only work day shift.

6. Canada Customs will not accept the vehicle for entry into Canada from the US without the USCBP exit stamp "Cleared for Export (date)". This now applies for vehicles being exported as parts cars as well.

7. The vehicle must be empty of any items of value (including spare parts) unless these parts are listed on the bill of sale.

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You need to get a recall release letter from the manufacturer... Mercedes Canada is quite poor for giving you this...

This only applies to vehicles less than 15 years old, as do the remarks about the RIV and the federal inspection. For vehicles more than 15 years old (and yes, they check the year AND month of production to determine age), you pay:

- HST on the sale price
- $100 air conditioning excise tax, if the car has A/C

You are required to provide CBSA documentary proof of how and how much you paid for the car: PayPal printout, copy of money order or cheque, etc. A copy of an eBay auction result that says it was paid isn't sufficient. CBSA wants an actual payment receipt. If you haven't got one, expect a very hard time.

CBSA now has online access to vehicle values, so presenting a lowball bill of sale will get you a rocky reception. Don't ask how I know this... and in my case the bill was totally legit, the guy just wanted the car to vanish. Anyway they will decide value based on what they see online, should it be significantly higher than your indicated purchase price.

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If the vehicle is grey market or being imported from anywhere else on the planet it must be 15 years old or older.

Details on qualifying vehicles and details on importing can be found here:
http://www.riv.ca/importingavehicle.aspx


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Old 06-07-2011, 07:05 PM
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Nice looking car. Scary looking parking lot. Is the "no frills" in the background a hidden message?
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:13 PM
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Having heard that these 4 bangers were slow, I was considering the engine change. However, having now done some 600 miles in the car, I plan to keep the car all original and stick with the 2.4d.
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We 240d manual shift owners keep that myth going to keep the cost of parts cars reasonable...
I suggest you now change your attitude and complain long and hard about how slow your car is... it can not get out of its own way....
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Old 06-07-2011, 11:03 PM
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Nice looking car. Scary looking parking lot. Is the "no frills" in the background a hidden message?
LOL welcome to Canada, dude.

We have lots of fugly 1970s and 1980s cut-rate indoor malls that had their exterior designed by architecture dropouts drawing with an ugly stick....

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