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Old 05-17-2010, 04:54 PM
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Unlikely. Security of the diagnostic port is probably the last thing auto makers worry about since by design its for testing or diagnosis. The operating system is extremely user friendly and you can run lots and lots of vehicle tests using a scanner.
Like you say, not unexpected. In fact, I'd be more amazed if they had secured it. You do need physical access to the vehicle.. or do you?

You seen any of the recent OnStar ads, where they advertise their ability to remotely disable a moving vehicle? They can also send you diagnostic info about your vehicle without ever physically accessing it. Now I wonder how they do that? Bet it doesn't involve a lot of extra parts or special loads of firmware. Now they wouldn't abuse their access and do something dangerous, but did they think about how to secure the system so hackers couldn't get in? Maybe, maybe not.

Put the two together. If that doesn't scare you at least a little, it probably should.
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Old 05-18-2010, 07:28 AM
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rrgrassi,

I guess since your car has no OBD connector that it is qualified for another year of the Bugtussle Trek. Will you be there? Last year my Dad was in really serious condition and it kept me from attending. I fully expect to make it this year.
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:11 AM
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I suspect a smart 14 year old could easily put together a small black box with wireless capacity & if it was plugged in then the fun could begin remotely.
In time I guess that sort of thing could be useful in a stolen car chase. The PD just shut the car down, chase over!
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:15 PM
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rrgrassi,

I guess since your car has no OBD connector that it is qualified for another year of the Bugtussle Trek. Will you be there? Last year my Dad was in really serious condition and it kept me from attending. I fully expect to make it this year.
Larry,

YEAH!!!! We will be there on the trek. I do remember you telling me last year that it was questionable. I hope all is well for you now.

Is the Galaxie running this year?

It will be good to see you again.

Ralph
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:38 PM
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Yes, the Galaxie has gone through a drivetrain transplant including engine from a parts car that I rebuilt and took the three speed transmssion from the parts car to replace the automatic with a three on the tree. I am a few hours of work away from completing my air conditioner installation. The a/c should be very handy for the Trek.

If the Good Lord's willin' and the creek don't rise, I'll be waiting for you guys in Bugtussle. Something that worries me though, the parking lot in front of the Bugtussle city hall is covered with piles of asphalt. I sure hope that's used up before August.

See ya' then!
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:57 PM
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Allthough this is interesting, I would hardly call it a problem. You could do the same thing with any of our old cars... they piggybacked on an external control system, then addded a wireless connection so they could control it remotely. By jumpering wires on any car with ABS you could lock, or disable the brakes. You could command the cruise control servo to floor any of our cars.

In fact, I see this as a good thing... Now I need to get a CAN to USB adapter so I can go sniffing on my TDI

-Jason
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