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Old 05-17-2010, 03:16 PM
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602 1991 300D - Timing Chain Tools

Hi all,

I am interested to compile a list of the special tools that I will need to replace the timing chain on my 1991 300D 2.5T 602 engine.

If someone would have part numbers in addition to the names of the tools that would be great.

also

if anyone would have tools - I would certainly be agreable to providing a deposit as a measure of good faith if they would want to lend / rent the tools

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Old 05-17-2010, 03:33 PM
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Do you mean special tools or a list including the general tools needed?

The only special tools often used are a pin remover and a timing chain pin riveter. The pin remover can be substituted for with a long screw that will thread into the pin, a washer, and a nut larger than the screw. You just walk out the pin.

The riveter, or whatever you want to call it is unnecessary unless you make a habit of taking off your valve cover to admire the beautiful peen on the master link pins. You can peen it quite acceptably with a ball peen hammer and a body dolly. If you don't have a body dolly, use another hammer to back up the master link from the back side while peening the pin with the ball end of your ball peen hammer. That's what a ball peen hammer was designed for.

The fancy tool will make a really beautiful mushroom shape of the end of the masterlink pins, but the only difference is that it is prettier than the one peened with a ball peen hammer.

Regardless of whether you use the fancy tool or a riveter, feel of the masterlink plate and put the sharp edged side toward the sprocket leaving the smooth edged side to peen the pin over. This makes for a stronger peen without a sharp edge to weaken the connection.

The force on the timing chain when running is perpindicular to the peen. The peen needs very little strength since it's only purpose is to keep the masterlink from falling out.
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:26 PM
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Thank you for your detailed response

To clarify - the tools in question are the special tools

one concern I have is the master link plates on the IWIS chain I bought do not push on by hand - leading to concern on my part that when I try to install the middle plate and the end plate I may be more likely to drop them without the high dollar press tool... what are your thoughts on that ?

THe other thing is I cannot seem to find the temporary master link with the removable spring clip that is used to temporarily connect the old and new chains... do you know of a workaround for that ?

thanks again
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:33 PM
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If you would prefer to use the Timing Chain Crimping tool there see Below. billybob is also on the rental list but I am not sure of his present status concerning our forum.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=126728&highlight=tool+rental+program

48) Timing chain crimper...................................Brian Carlton......................$20.
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Thank you for your detailed response

To clarify - the tools in question are the special tools

one concern I have is the master link plates on the IWIS chain I bought do not push on by hand - leading to concern on my part that when I try to install the middle plate and the end plate I may be more likely to drop them without the high dollar press tool... what are your thoughts on that ?

THe other thing is I cannot seem to find the temporary master link with the removable spring clip that is used to temporarily connect the old and new chains... do you know of a workaround for that ?

thanks again
I think Hunter posted in one of the threads one time with a pic of the double and sinlge temp links that he got from the Dealer.

In the DIY it is recommended to stuff Rags around the Timing Chain opening so that nothing drops inside.
Due to a personal lack of courage I do not think I could Peen over the timing chain link pins by hand. If I did that and the Timing Chain failed I would always believe it was because of the peening job.
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:47 PM
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Diesel - thankyou

I did not know that Brian had this tool I will PM him as per the instructions

I also do not have a good feeling about the hammer peening method - there is simply put just too much at risk. I last week found a 300D 602 that was broken to a larger or lesser degree due to a timing chain gone nova - I have two of these cars both running at present one has had its chain replaced and one had not at 156 K - I think I better get on it

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Old 05-17-2010, 08:58 PM
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Does anyone know what to use in place of the temporary OE "tool" master link with the spring clip closure for connecting the old and new chain

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Does anyone know what to use in place of the temporary OE "tool" master link with the spring clip closure for connecting the old and new chain

thankyou
Quite a few members have replaced their timing chains and I bet there is a few links out there sitting in a Garage or Tool box.
You might post what State and what major City you are near. It could be some one local has one they would loan or maybe Brian would also loan his if he has any.

I know there is a least 2 members who have got their Chain Stuck when using Wire instead of the link.
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Old 05-18-2010, 07:34 PM
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Diesel,

Thanks for the reply, I just ordered one today as the one Brian had went missing so this should be a help to all.

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