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Lost an allen wrench in my engine...
Dang it, this is so embarrassing... while re-installing the intake manifold on my 300SDL I accidently dropped the L-shaped allen wrench between the IP and the engine block (on driver's side) and I can't find it to save my life. I searched for about 1 hr, took a break for dinner then went out again and searched for another hour or so... nothing. I've pushed the car back and looked on the ground, from underneath and looked really hard from above with a strong light - can't find it. It's maddening...
Question is - given the general area would it be safe to just leave it there - wherever the heck it landed?! I would have to remove the entire intake manifold again to to get good access to that area from above - unlikely to happen.
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flexible magnet might do the trick
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As long as you are positive it is not inside the engine. In all probability there will be no issue.
You are not the first person to drop a nut or something and not find it. Unfortunatly if an engine is open it has to be found if there is even a slight chance it may have fallen in. This at least is not your case from what I can tell. The usual hiding spots from me are either on the a frames or subframe under the engine on some cars. |
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If the SDL has a belly pan, the Allen wrench will eventually rattle down and land on it. If not, it'll be on the road somewhere. If it sticks where it is, it will be there next time you pull the manifold.
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Hopefully there's no throttle linkage between the block and IP that the wrench can jam on, if it is indeed still there.
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There are some linkages there, I'd double check that, and that it isn't shorting against a glow plug. If not, leave it
-J
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I can see a new thread in a few days "Strange rattling sound coming from behind the IP !!
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I just had this happen to me about 2 weeks ago.
If you can get your hand in it is most likely between the starter and the block.
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I dropped a glow plug down there once. I use a super strong magnet mounted to a copper wire and fish around. SOmetimes things get all the way under the engine on the front cross member and stick there.
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I used to be a Service Tech for a printing press mfg. and we would tie a string to our tools when we were working on a critical area - yea I know, could said something before you dropped the wrench.
When the inevitable happened and we didn't use a string, a mirror and flash light went a long way. Dropping a nut or bolt on a $2 million machine means you find it before it moves. Just make sure nothing that can be damaged or affected is ok, then don't worry about it. |
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I've dropped tools down there before.
Almost always do it when replacing glow plugs. It shouldn't hurt anything down there. Usually I find them by feeling around. I almost never find one by seeing it first. Danny
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you see that aluminium piece that your diesel thermastat is bolted too? (the engine mount)
inbetween the pass side of the IP and the block where the mount bolts to the block there is a retangle "tray" that seems to catch 10 and 12mm sockets when doing glowplugs |
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Thx for the suggestions - next time I will tie a string to the tool - why didn't I think of it before..
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I also have dropped tools in that cavern. Last time was a combo wrench for the glow plug nuts. Drove a few miles and turned right. Heard the wrench bounce off car and street. Lucky I had the windows open.
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I don't know how many projects there have been that were going way too smoothly. And then an important tool / hardware gets dropped somewhere in the engine bay. I have 3-4 different magnet tools of varying strength and sizes. But I have spent an hour+ on numerous occasions fishing.
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