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Old 05-26-2010, 03:17 PM
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reminds of a woman I knew who once betrayed an inability to tell the physical difference between a 1967 stingray and a mid 90s escort coupe.

She just could not tell why one was so different than the other. To her they both had two doors and were both red. One was a convertible. It was shocking to me.

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Old 05-26-2010, 03:29 PM
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I was trying really hard to find this video in youtube where this radio station calls this girl saying that they're calling from Midas, where she had previously dropped off her car for a tune0up or what not, and then they call her telling her that her front light fluid was low, asked her if she'd prefer regular or halogen (she went for halogen), told her that her transmission was gone and asked her whether she backed up a lot, to which she replied that she did when pulling from her garage, so they told her that her transmission was gone and that they could replace it (she asked how important the transmission was), then they told her that somehow her left rear tire ended up on the right side and that they could put them back where they were for like $40 a tire (she said go ahead) and then they told her that it would be $160 because that happened in all 4 tires (she wondered how could that happen and then gave them the go aheat here too... ) then they told her that her lighter was gone and that they could put a now one for free, but that she'd have to pay $250 or so for labor (she said, uh, okay)... I have seldom laughed as hard as when I heard that for the first time. I'll try to find and post it here
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It's been said before that everyone processes their surroundings differently. Nobody knows everything about everything so it's expected that she is going to exercise the most logical option and call someone who specifically knows about the car rather than try to systematically troubleshoot each individual step to recreate the noise.
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Face it, we're all just mechanical geeks . It all comes down to leaky abstractions. In general, we like to understand the next level deeper so when we're faced with a strange behavior appearing through the abstraction, we know what's going on. To the rest of the world, what we do is magic. Of course, we all have our own person range of geekiness and clueless user.

To most people, a vehicle is a perfect abstraction of a device that magically gets them from place to place as long as they use the procedure that makes it do so. Their limit of diagnosis is to figure out if they used the correct magical procedure. When it still fails to work, its broke.

Me, for example, I draw the line at my laptop. If it won't turn on, that means its broke and I shell out money to have it work again. I could go get my mulitmeter and open the thing up to see if the problem is with the internal power supply, like one person I ran into who had that situation did, but I won't. I check if I used the magic procedure to make it work (is its power supply plugged in? Did I press the right button? Is it smoking.. no wait, I handle that as an interrupt). If that doesn't yield a result, its broke.
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Old 05-26-2010, 08:29 PM
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It's been said before that everyone processes their surroundings differently. Nobody knows everything about everything so it's expected that she is going to exercise the most logical option and call someone who specifically knows about the car rather than try to systematically troubleshoot each individual step to recreate the noise.
Yeah, but I mean, the "noise" happens when you first turn the key to the glow position... no further steps are needed. it started immediately. she could have said, when you turn on the key, the car starts making a noise in the back.
but no. she said it's making a noise.
it's noisier when you are starting it... (I assume from this statement that "starting it" for her is turning the key and waiting for the glow light to go out...) sooo, the noise while no quieter during operation of the vehicle, in comparison of the noise that's normal for this rattle wagon it is louder during the initial startup checklist...
I don't know where the noise is coming from.

I have a term for people like this... users.
I'm a nerd. a gear head, a mechanic, a tech, an engineer of sorts. I guess you could say, I'm a wizzard or a magician... all interchangeable to users.
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Old 05-26-2010, 08:32 PM
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Face it, we're all just mechanical geeks .
Me, for example, I draw the line at my laptop. If it won't turn on, that means its broke and I shell out money to have it work again. I could go get my mulitmeter and open the thing up to see if the problem is with the internal power supply, like one person I ran into who had that situation did, but I won't. I check if I used the magic procedure to make it work (is its power supply plugged in? Did I press the right button? Is it smoking.. no wait, I handle that as an interrupt). If that doesn't yield a result, its broke.
oh, if your laptop fails to operate, the first step after seeing if it is indeed plugged in, is to see if the lights on the charger are on, and see if the lights on the laptop showing it is charging are on.
after that, it's broke.
a multimeter will assist you in determining if power is entering or exiting the power supply, but it won't help fix the laptop if the charging light is on on it.

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