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Old 06-26-2010, 10:25 AM
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240D auto to manual future project - thoughts?

Hi all,
My 82 240D is a wonderful car. Rust-free (pretty well), 215K, clean interior, very good mechanical condition. I just use it in the Summer. Though it drives nicely, it's a bit of a slug because of the auto transmission, and I've thought a few times about replacing the auto with a 4 speed as a project, but time has been a limiting factor. I plan on taking early retirement next summer and thought it might be an interesting project, should I ever get the gumption to tackle it.

A couple of local specimens have come up: in one of them, the manual transmission and all associated elements have been removed (before the car was scrapped due to rust). Another car has the engine removed but the 4 speed still in it. I could put an offer to buy either one. I know that people here have suggested to get a complete donor car, to make it easier to move parts from donor to keeper, knowing what goes where. But that means having another car in the driveway (which is not too much of an issue for me).

In a way, getting just the parts would be easier for me to store, and they are already taken out of the donor so that's part of the work done. But there is a chance it may not come with all the necessary bits and pieces.

Which way would you go, and what would you offer for either (1) the kit or (2) the donor car, without engine?

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Old 06-26-2010, 04:32 PM
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The car with the missing engine is probably also missing the flywheel, which you will need. Double check the same on the kit. Also keep in mind that you can sell the remains of a donor car after you get done with the conversion, while with a kit, you won't have anything to sell.

In my case, I bought a running, driving (but rusty) 240D for $480 and proceeded to drive it for four years and 24,000 miles before cannibalizing it for my 300D manual conversion. I was then able to sell the leftover car (with good engine and not much else) for $200.
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Old 06-27-2010, 08:15 AM
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Thanks Skippy.
Good point about the flywheel. Actually, I may have one in my garage from a project long ago that didn't materialize, I'll have to check.
As you say, the donor car could provide other benefits, including resale, so I'll ask about that one.
Sounds like that $480 240D was a very worthwhile buy for you (4 years+).
I'm still having a debate with myself on whether I'll want to embark on the auto switch when all is said and done.
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:22 PM
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Have a look at this thread

A few moments of temporary insanity, and a 1980 240D becomes mine!
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:13 PM
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Wow, that guy's dropnosky nuts! (in a good kind of way! )
I would run away from anything as rusty as that and he just goes at it with gumption and perseverance.
Anyway I don't have a welder and don't know how to weld, but can appreciate the work this guy does. All a matter of time, effort and experience I suppose (and some steel) - 2 of which I don't have much of, and the latter, none when it comes to welding.
Nice to know there's people out there who resuscitate rusty W123's like that!
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Old 06-27-2010, 08:00 PM
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Thanks Skippy.
Good point about the flywheel. Actually, I may have one in my garage from a project long ago that didn't materialize, I'll have to check.
Had a look and indeed I have what looks like a 616 flywheel in the garage
Part number on it is 615 03213 01
Doesn't match the part number in my original OM616 parts manual, but may be a later version?
One part accounted for...

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