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#46 07-01-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

Nothing beats elitism. Ever consider running for congress?

Thanks, but I don't need an additional incentive to make fun of the truck driving redneck clowns that still exist in this part of the world. I'm not talking about people who use these ugly things for work, I'm talking about kids with chipped $40k trucks with chrome stacks and truck nutz. These morons make all diesel drivers look like idiots, it's about time to enforce some noise and emissions laws before we turn into TX.

#47 07-01-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 4x4_Welder

Come on, we all know you are more comfortable with your granola, techno and protests-
Stereotypes aside, you aren't going to find an import truck that can hold with the domestics, especially a diesel one. And before you start screaming Mitsu/Fuso, Isuzu, and Hino, show me one with a bed and 1-ton registered capacity that you can insure as a private pickup.

I wasn't clear, I have no use for any kind of truck. I don't need or want one.

#48 07-01-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig

Thanks, but I don't need an additional incentive to make fun of the truck driving redneck clowns that still exist in this part of the world. I'm not talking about people who use these ugly things for work, I'm talking about kids with chipped $40k trucks with chrome stacks and truck nutz. These morons make all diesel drivers look like idiots, it's about time to enforce some noise and emissions laws before we turn into TX.

So now you're assaulting Texas? This may come as a surprise to you, but I've lived all of my 61 years of life, except most of my Army time, in Texas and I don't have a huge, chipped 4X4.

You're not explaining away your elitism, you're expanding it!

#49 07-01-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

So now you're assaulting Texas? This may come as a surprise to you, but I've lived all of my 61 years of life, except most of my Army time, in Texas and I don't have a huge, chipped 4X4.

You're not explaining away your elitism, you're expanding it!

Sorry, but I spend too much time in the DFW area with the "cowboys" who drive these things (big hat, no cows?). I know lots of folks who work/live in TX and the vast majority are perfectly normal. Besides, if you ever go skiing in CO you will find that making fun of TX is quite a sport.

I don't need to explain anything, I take "elitist" as a complement.

babymog · #50 07-01-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 4x4_Welder

Come on, we all know you are more comfortable with your granola, techno and protests-
Stereotypes aside, you aren't going to find an import truck that can hold with the domestics, especially a diesel one. And before you start screaming Mitsu/Fuso, Isuzu, and Hino, show me one with a bed and 1-ton registered capacity that you can insure as a private pickup.

Unimog.

Oops, you mean only one ton?

#51 07-01-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig

Sorry, but I spend too much time in the DFW area with the "cowboys" who drive these things (big hat, no cows?). I know lots of folks who work/live in TX and the vast majority are perfectly normal. Besides, if you ever go skiing in CO you will find that making fun of TX is quite a sport.

I don't need to explain anything, I take "elitist" as a complement.

Most elitists DO see it as a complement.

#52 07-01-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

Most elitists DO see it as a complement.

Thanks!

#53 07-01-2010, 01:08 PM

After all, what fun would it be thinking that you're better than everyone else without everyone KNOWING that you think that you're better than everyone else.

Again, you qualify for congress, you should consider running for a seat.

#54 07-01-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

After all, what fun would it be thinking that you're better than everyone else without everyone KNOWING that you think that you're better than everyone else.

Again, you qualify for congress, you should consider running for a seat.

Exactly, but it's only fun if you are actually better than everyone else.

I certainly hope that I'm overqualified for congress, that is not a club I would want to be associated with. Those folks only THINK they are better.

diametricalbenz · #55 07-01-2010, 03:57 PM

I have both an OM617 and a 5.9L 12 Valve. I would agree they are apples and oranges. I love the ton of torque the 5.9L makes but the maintenance is a pain since everything is buried under wiring and accessories just to get to the fuel filter. Even the manual primer pump is 2 feet down into the engine bay. The transmissions aren't great as I just blew mine up but that's a Dodge issue and not a engine issue.

#56 07-01-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig

Exactly, but it's only fun if you are actually better than everyone else.

I certainly hope that I'm overqualified for congress, that is not a club I would want to be associated with. Those folks only THINK they are better.

HMMmmm.... What is the difference between KNOWING that you're better than everyone else and THINKING that you are better than everyone else? If you THINK that you're better than everyone else, then doesn't that mean that you think that you KNOW you're better than everyone else? Who makes the call other than yourself?

#57 07-01-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

HMMmmm.... What is the difference between KNOWING that you're better than everyone else and THINKING that you are better than everyone else? If you THINK that you're better than everyone else, then doesn't that mean that you think that you KNOW you're better than everyone else? Who makes the call other than yourself?

Of course I make the call, who else would be qualified?

Willie B · #58 07-01-2010, 05:05 PM

...I have a 12 valve Cummins turbodiesel, a 6cyl Merz turbodiesel and two 5 cyl Merz turbodiesels...

...The Cummins is in a '97 Dodge Ram 4x4 extra cab...I have no complaints about the Dodge truck itself or the Cummins engine although at 170K miles the trans does do some strange things...

...The '87 6 cyl Merz is another story...At a couple of hundred K, it's lifters are pumping down and this set only has 50K on them...
What's up with that???...

...It definately has more power than my 5cyl's but I just dont trust it from a reliability standpoint???...I've got to think my '79 and '80 300SD's are better overall cars than my '87 300D...

soothappens · #59 07-01-2010, 05:41 PM

Found a cure for the engine outlasting the truck thing. F-700 93' cummins 12 valve and a Eaton 5 speed.

Both it and my 240D have about the same takeoff speed and top end. Both in my opinion are about the same durability wise . They both haul my tools , but I have to say for comfort and wow factor I gotta go with the 240D. As for the fuel mileage 12 on the cummins and 26 on the 616.

But then again 4000# compared to 19000# .

vstech · #60 07-01-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig

Exactly, but it's only fun if you are actually better than everyone else.

I certainly hope that I'm overqualified for congress, that is not a club I would want to be associated with. Those folks only THINK they are better.

I totally agree. it's only better for everyone to know you are better than everyone else if you are in fact better. I have made quite a few mistakes in my past, questioning myself I'm not always sure I am correct, but I'm usually proven to be right and I get over it.