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Old 06-15-2010, 02:38 PM
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CCU unit only blows thru Defrost vent

Suddenly... now that the weather is getting hot, my climate control unit decides it will only blow HOT air and only thru the defrost vent at the window. Regardless of setting! I also notice if I rotate the temp control I don't hear the usually "clicky click" that signals to me the unit adjusting output based on ambient temp.

I stumbled across the thread below, but not sure that it applies to a 300D like my '82.

My heater only blows though the defrost vent 300SD 82

Thanks for any wisdom on this...

-Chuck

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Old 06-15-2010, 02:39 PM
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sounds like you may have a problem with the pod switching system, they tend to break after awhile and the system will revert to the Defroster setting when the vacuum pressure escapes. that is my guess, that is what happened with mine.
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:50 PM
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Suddenly... now that the weather is getting hot, my climate control unit decides it will only blow HOT air and only thru the defrost vent at the window. Regardless of setting! I also notice if I rotate the temp control I don't hear the usually "clicky click" that signals to me the unit adjusting output based on ambient temp.

I stumbled across the thread below, but not sure that it applies to a 300D like my '82.

My heater only blows though the defrost vent 300SD 82

Thanks for any wisdom on this...

-Chuck
The default/neutral blend door position is defrost = vacuum failure.

Possible cause:
* Vacuum hose leak.
* Vacuum element Diaphragm ripped.
* Vacuum pump failing.

Full heat is a common issue:
* Mono valve Diaphragm ripped.
* No voltage to the mono valve.

Aux. Water Pump takes out CCU
Aux. Water Pump takes out CCU

Climate Control Repair
on the 1983 300D Turbo (W123 Chassis)
by BoostnBenz
2/16/04
http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ClimateControl

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Old 06-15-2010, 02:51 PM
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The CCU can go bad and there are threads about re-soldering them, if that is the problem. It could also be the pods which are not opening and closing according to the signal sent out by the CCU if it is working properly. But to eliminate one variable, do you know that you have a good charge in your A/C system? Was it blowing cold air recently? This season? Have you put a gauge on it to see where the reading is?

Are you running R134a or R12? The R134a you can charge yourself with supplies from the auto parts store. R12, not as obtainable.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:57 PM
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I find that I have to recharge the system each summer, but it holds the charge for the hot months.

If this is any hint on the CCU -- for the last week or so it was only working on "full blast" mode -- the lower speed would start up low and within a minute go to the full output. Typically I just use the vent-air blower, not pushing the compressor button. I'm in New England so not hot outside for much of the year.

I'm thinking vacuum issue rather then CCU, though that's only because WANT it to be that -- I replaced the CCU about 18 months ago, but with a junk yard replacement that has worked OK.

Thanks for the bullet list WHunter -- will go through this. Also I have been mucking around with another electrical issue, I'll want to double check fuses I saw some corrosion around contacts and such. Would be wonderful if this boiled down to a poorly-seated fuse, but maybe that's not in the cards.

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Old 06-15-2010, 10:45 PM
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only one way to tell if it's the CCU really is to switch it with a known working one, So I've been told..
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Old 06-17-2010, 07:49 PM
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Update

By way of update: my hint today was "the horn isn't working." It was the #14 fuse. Fuse was actually intact. Seems like we have aluminum fuses with copper contacts, is that possible? What a recipe for reaction/corrosion. In any event, in the mean time I learned quite a bit about location of vacuum pods from the link below, but am quite glad that it was simple (dumb simple) to solve.

Great write-up on HVAC pod locations and overhaul approach:
http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123HVACVacuumActuators

Thanks for all the great info from the wonderful folks on this board, I'm very grateful, and I'm much better prepared for the actuator overhaul that I will likely need at some point!

Chuck
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Good Job finding it though. Many times the simple fix is the hardest to find.
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When I picked up my car it had the same problem. I pulled the CCU to check for bad solder joints but instead fount that there was a small fuse in the back of the CCU and it was blown. Replaced the fuse and everything started working.

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