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Mystery Front End Clunk
My 300D has developed a slight clunk at the left front. I just took it to the shop and we could not find anything except a little vertical movement in the steering box output shaft. The steering box is just about the only part that hasn't been replaced recently, so I'm going to try tossing in a rebuilt steering box and see if that resolves it.
This clunk only happens if I hit the right bump at the right speed and it's still pretty subtle. It's very annoying when it does happen, hopefully the steering box will take care of it. Anyone have any other ideas? |
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Have you checked out the front end components? I had a clunk when my tie rod was beat. Then I had a similar clunk when the guide rod mount was beat, but that one also clunked while braking or accelerating.
Right now, my SDL is clunking due to beat upper ball joints. I'm fixing that tomorrow.
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What's going on now is the strearing box shaft seems to have a slight amount of vertical free play, if I push straight up on the pittman arm it will make an audible clunk but it's hard to tell if that's what I'm hearing. |
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Did you replace the track rod mounts at that time? They can be the most elusive source of a clunk.
Can you feel the clunk at your left foot? |
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Exact same issue here. I'll be pulling the wheels off on Sunday to review.
Last night I grabbed the front left wheel and gave it good shake and I heard the clunk again. Mostly when I brake or accelerate though. -Andrew
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I have an occasional clunk under my left foot in the 240D.....Larry please tell me what you are thinking!
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This one sounds higher and or more forward (like a tie rood or something) but we couldn't get anything else to make a sound with a pry bar. |
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Look for a rod that goes from the front suspension back towards the fire wall, at the back end it is connected to the unibody with a bushing in a mounting assemble that's held in place with a few bolts. Try moving that and see if you can reproduce the clunk. When you are driving, you can feel it more than hear it.
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If you can reproduce it by hand, it should be easy to find.
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Current Mercedes 1979 maple yellow 240D 4-speed Gone and fondly remembered: 1980 orient red 240D 4-speed Gone and NOT fondly remembered: 1982 Chna Blue 300TD Other car in the stable: 2013 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI / 6-speed MT |
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Be nice to peggysue.
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Just a thought , if your going to replace the steering box why not try adjusting the backlash on it and then verifying if that in fact is the clunk.
Worst case its tight and you have to manually center it , best case it cures your clunk. By no means do I suggest driving with it tight but just to check it. My 300sd made a clunking noise that wound up being slack in the box . I was able to dial it out with the adjustment nut.
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I found that the best way to test the rear guide rod mounts was to park the car on a hard/level surface, keep it in Park, release the emergency brake, grab one of the front tires at the 3/9 o'clock position, rock the tire fore to aft and look underneath where the "guide rod" goes into the rear "guide rod mount". If the rod pulls in and out of the mount, it is toast. Having a helper rock the tire while you watch "the rod" is a bonus.
If they are really bad (like mine were) you can grab the rod (with the car on the ground) and move it around by hand. That clunk was really annoying. Craig... I think you are probably right about the steering box... Did you look at the UCA bolts (through the inner fender well)? Maybe a split upper shock mount? Those subtle clunks are a PITA to track down sometimes....
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Yup, we checked all the bolts and tried to move everything with a pry bar. We even checked the sway bar bushings.
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