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fruitcakesa 07-17-2010 06:25 PM

coolant temp rises on shutdown
 
It is my 81 240
After a drive that got the temp. up to 82*, I shut off the car, ran a quick errand of 1 minute and returned to the car.
When I switched back on, the temp was up near 100.
As soon as I got moving ther temp returned to 82.
Is this a normal situation?
For the past year, after a rad change, new hoses, tstat and coolant, the car would run near 90 and quickly rise to 100 when climbing or hard running for a while.
Forum members opined trapped air as a possible reason.
I have done no cooling system work since last years work so if it was trapped air, it was not purged by me.
Last month, I finally bled my slave cyl, after over a year of soft pedal and grindy reverse and got my clutch back and simultaneously my 90-100* running was gone replaced by the current 82*.
Is this just coincidence or was the unbled slave causing clutch slippage and thus overheating under load?
What say youse?

tangofox007 07-17-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fruitcakesa (Post 2507612)
Is this a normal situation?

Does the circulation of coolant stop when the engine is shut down?

fruitcakesa 07-17-2010 06:31 PM

I assume such, so you are saying it is normal?

okyoureabeast 07-17-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tangofox007 (Post 2507613)
Does the circulation of coolant stop when the engine is shut down?


Yes :P

My car does this. No need to worry unless the engine exceeds 120* C, which I doubt will happen.

snookwhaler 07-17-2010 06:53 PM

Before my radiator started to go (last year) this would happen. It has not happened since the new rad.

I had a very fine crack on the top tank. It was very difficult to see and rarely leaked enough to see it. The coolant level never really dropped a substantial amount either.

okyoureabeast 07-17-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snookwhaler (Post 2507623)
Before my radiator started to go (last year) this would happen. It has not happened since the new rad.

I had a very fine crack on the top tank. It was very difficult to see and rarely leaked enough to see it. The coolant level never really dropped a substantial amount either.


You know, I noticed a bit of coolant at the very top of the radiator near the hose that connects to the coolant tank. I check my engine bay very often (once a week ocd :o) and it comes and goes. It isn't big at all, but just enough for the area to be moist. Tightening the hose doesn't seem to do anything.

Coolant level hasn't changed at all.

TheDon 07-17-2010 07:02 PM

It's just heat soak is all

Craig 07-17-2010 07:08 PM

Yup, mine do it too. It's not a problem.

Biodiesel300TD 07-17-2010 07:28 PM

It's normal. The engine is cooled via the coolant in the radiator and the water pump pumping coolant through the system. So if there is no air flow through the radiator, and the engine is not running the hot engine will heat up the water instead of the in flowing cool water cooling the engine.

69shovlhed 07-17-2010 07:45 PM

the moist spot at the little hose to the reservoir means the nipple has a crack in it or the hose is dry rotten. replace the hose if its old, careful w/ that stupid little nipple, very fragile and prone to break off. mickey mouse fix is jb weld, otherwise replace radiator.

bustedbenz 07-18-2010 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fruitcakesa (Post 2507612)
It is my 81 240
After a drive that got the temp. up to 82*, I shut off the car, ran a quick errand of 1 minute and returned to the car.
When I switched back on, the temp was up near 100.
As soon as I got moving ther temp returned to 82.
Is this a normal situation?
For the past year, after a rad change, new hoses, tstat and coolant, the car would run near 90 and quickly rise to 100 when climbing or hard running for a while.
Forum members opined trapped air as a possible reason.
I have done no cooling system work since last years work so if it was trapped air, it was not purged by me.
Last month, I finally bled my slave cyl, after over a year of soft pedal and grindy reverse and got my clutch back and simultaneously my 90-100* running was gone replaced by the current 82*.
Is this just coincidence or was the unbled slave causing clutch slippage and thus overheating under load?
What say youse?

It's perfectly normal, but for a literal one minute errand I think Id've left the car idling. Shutdown/startup is one more cycle on the starter/battery life and for just a minute, it's not going to hurt anything even if you are in the *just because people have left diesels idling for fifty years doesn't make it a good idea* group.

My $0.02. Either way, one more vote for the heat soak being normal.

layback40 07-18-2010 12:20 AM

Heat soak is normal. Some turbo motors have a shut down timer to save it from over heating. If you take any car for a good hard run on a very hot day & then shut it off without a time at idle it generally boils in the top of the motor & radiator.

scottmcphee 07-18-2010 10:09 AM

Turbo timers are meant to cool the turbo down from white hot to something less, before oil stops flowing through it. If you are the kind of person who pulls off the highway from having just passed a bunch of traffic, for a pit stop, and turn the car off immediately when coming to a halt - you'd benefit from a turbo timer. It's nothing to do with coolant overheating, or the rest of the engine for that matter. It's more about keeping oil moving around the turbo bearing.

barry123400 07-19-2010 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmcphee (Post 2507882)
Turbo timers are meant to cool the turbo down from white hot to something less, before oil stops flowing through it. If you are the kind of person who pulls off the highway from having just passed a bunch of traffic, for a pit stop, and turn the car off immediately when coming to a halt - you'd benefit from a turbo timer. It's nothing to do with coolant overheating, or the rest of the engine for that matter. It's more about keeping oil moving around the turbo bearing.

It is approved after hard running to allow the block temperature to equalize before shutting down. Eliminates hot spot warpage. Actually recomended by most old time diesel mechanics.

Certainly harms nothing in my opinion and perhaps extends engine life.

RunningTooHot 07-20-2010 12:10 AM

As Barry 123400 alludes to: Another benefit of a "turbo timer" is allowing the coolant temperatures to stabilize throughout the engine - which can potentially extend the service life of the head gasket on engines with dis-similar metals, i.e., iron block & aluminum head (which obviously have different thermal expansion rates). In theory...


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