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It's a joke. But seriously, I've shut off a 617 many times by sucking on a vacuum hose.
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I've thought about taking the air metering box and turning it around backwards (so the air flow goes through the other way) and using a pin to hold the flap open with a pull cord to yank (letting the flap slam shut - it is spring loaded plus would have the suction of intake) as an emergency shut off to stop run-away diesel.
Cutting off air is a certain way of stopping the engine in all cases.
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It IS easy to joke about whether sucking or yanking is the best way to shut off an engine.
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Especially since you have to PUSH on the knob to shut the engine off...
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Kerry was the one who said pull, not me.
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???? There is no existing knob so how do you know it needs to be pushed? A pull cable is the best way to accomplish diesel interruptus.
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I can just see it now,
you get pulled over on the highway, the trooper comes up to your car & says "please turn off your car & get out", You reply "ok I just have to suck on this". What do you think the trooper does next?
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use a vac pump out of a central door lock system. Cheap, effective, still mercedes. Pushbutton to start, pushbutton to stop.
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alot of diesels like our JD tractor or bobcats, even a 5.9 cummins, has an electric solinoid thats operated via the ignition. there made just for that function and made to be reliable.
We did used to have a couple if Iseki diesel tractors that both had an air choke butterfly. works well! And the most basic way to stop a runaway diesel like if the turbo let go or some kind of injection pump failure
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Keep it simple
He doesn't want vacuum and doesn't know how or if possible to route and install a choke cable. Dollars to doughnuts that Unimog is a standard transmission. Want to kill the engine? Just put it into top gear and let the clutch out. How difficult is that?
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On North American models, I believe this was only used on 4 cylinder diesels to 1975, however, in Europe, I believe it carried over to early 617's.
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How about a hood release cable and handle assy from a W123? The dismantlers are full of them.
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Or find an old one with a blown diaphragm and cut the vac cylinder open to reveal the "pin" actuator you need. Pull with a cable to shutoff the rack. Return it to the "ready" position with the spring around the pin. The clevis that attaches the two parts is just a simple right angle pin. Its probably LESS work that creating a linkage between the accelerator lever and some ground condition the DOESN'T affect the throttle The shutoff plunger is located at top back of the IP on a four bolt flanged plate. The engagement feature you need is already machined into the rack. All you need is a cable actuator to take the place of the vacuum piston on the shutoff cylinder.
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