Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-17-2010, 12:07 PM
ThePhoenix's Avatar
Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: LoCal
Posts: 105
My '83 300SD has MB-Tex seats, and a Santa Ana just hit SoCal

Yet another AC question...

When I bought the car the AC didn't work. A rebuilt master control switch, a new drier unit, rebuilding the monovalve, and recharging the system took care of that, and the AC worked great until last winter when the bracket for the AC pump came loose from the engine block, causing the belt to snap. "Oh well, I will take care of that when the weather warms up" I said to myself. Bad call...

Now with a new belt installed I can only get AC if I manually apply voltage to the pump wires. Otherwise, the pump never engages. I have voltage to the monovalve no matter where the switches on the dash are set to.

Where should I go from here? I really don't want to replace that switch unit...

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-17-2010, 12:19 PM
ThePhoenix's Avatar
Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: LoCal
Posts: 105
Questions

After perusing a few threads it seems that it may be:

1. Refrigerant needs recharging
Can I test this myself?

2. A bad relay
Which one is it?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-17-2010, 12:31 PM
tbomachines's Avatar
ಠ_ಠ
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,371
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePhoenix View Post
Yet another AC question...

When I bought the car the AC didn't work. A rebuilt master control switch, a new drier unit, rebuilding the monovalve, and recharging the system took care of that, and the AC worked great until last winter when the bracket for the AC pump came loose from the engine block, causing the belt to snap. "Oh well, I will take care of that when the weather warms up" I said to myself. Bad call...

Now with a new belt installed I can only get AC if I manually apply voltage to the pump wires. Otherwise, the pump never engages. I have voltage to the monovalve no matter where the switches on the dash are set to.

Where should I go from here? I really don't want to replace that switch unit...
Usually the compressor won't engage if there is not enough pressure on the system. Jumping the wires is not usually a good idea, it cuts out to protect the compressor. Get yourself some pressure gauges and you can rule that out.
__________________
TC
Current stable:
- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-17-2010, 01:07 PM
ThePhoenix's Avatar
Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: LoCal
Posts: 105
Quote:
Originally Posted by tbomachines View Post
Usually the compressor won't engage if there is not enough pressure on the system. Jumping the wires is not usually a good idea, it cuts out to protect the compressor. Get yourself some pressure gauges and you can rule that out.
OK, I only did it for a moment for testing, so hopefully no harm done. Would you guess based on the series of events that it's just a recharge that's needed? If so, I will just have it done and forego the expense of buying a gauge. (Or is recharging it myself an option? I've never done it.)

Also, what about the relay location? Any tips?

Last edited by ThePhoenix; 08-17-2010 at 02:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-17-2010, 02:18 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 342
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePhoenix View Post
I have voltage to the monovalve no matter where the switches on the dash are set to.
That's correct and normal. If you set the temp control to "min" (18?) one of the pins should then be grounded to close the valve; at that point one pin will have ~13 VDC and one will have ~0 VDC. (for access either slide the connector up a little, or pop the cover off with your eyeglass screwdriver)
__________________
James Marriott
2003 Buick Regal
1983 300D (228k, frau Auto)
1996 Suburban K2500 (192k, 6.5 turbo diesel/4WD towmaster 10,000)
www.engineeringworks.biz
1987 300SDL junker 170k
1982 300SD junker, 265k
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-17-2010, 03:06 PM
tbomachines's Avatar
ಠ_ಠ
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,371
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePhoenix View Post
OK, I only did it for a moment for testing, so hopefully no harm done. Would you guess based on the series of events that it's just a recharge that's needed? If so, I will just have it done and forego the expense of buying a gauge. (Or is recharging it myself an option? I've never done it.)

Also, what about the relay location? Any tips?
If you're going to recharge it you're going to need the pressure gauges anyway. They're not expensive - you can't get a definitive answer without actually testing so I can't help you there.

__________________
TC
Current stable:
- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page