Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help




Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-22-2010, 12:48 PM
JB3 JB3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 6,709
bought a 74 240D this weekend



1974 240D 4-speed, dark brown with burgundy interior (excepting driver seat, looks out of a much later car and tan). Only 3 small rust holes on the whole car! Easily patchable, and thin undercoating on this car means I can take better care of the metal work, since problems will be immediately visible.

Needs a bunch of trim and interior parts, but it runs great with the exception of the glow plugs not working.

I like this chassis style a lot, seems almost mechanically identical to my 80
Attached Thumbnails
bought a 74 240D this weekend-742401.jpg   bought a 74 240D this weekend-742402.jpg   bought a 74 240D this weekend-742403.jpg   bought a 74 240D this weekend-742404.jpg  
__________________
This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-22-2010, 02:16 PM
Colorado220's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: COLORADO
Posts: 631
Nice, have fun with it!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-22-2010, 10:14 PM
Anders
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 409
W115 240D

I had a egg shell blue one. These are great cars. Enjoy yours.
__________________
Anders

1995 E300
2015 VW TDI Sportwagen 15K
1977 240D (197K)
2002 Subaru Legacy L Wagon (115k) (Wife's)
Gone but not forgotten:
2005 Buick LeSabre
1998 C230
1984 300D
1983 240D
1981 300SD
1974 240D
1974 Fiat 124 Spider
1968 Triumph TR250
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-22-2010, 10:41 PM
JB3 JB3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 6,709
I really like it, especially the pull start feature! I can't believe how modern a feel this 36 year old car has driving! I wish that both my MBs were not the same unappealing tired dark brown though. One will have to be painted, probably this 115 when I get done playing with it since it is not a death trap.

I am toying with the idea of putting a 617 in it. From what I have read, it seems a matter of the oil filter not matching, and requiring some tweakage there.

What is the official name for that dark burgundy interior?
__________________
This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-22-2010, 10:49 PM
diametricalbenz's Avatar
The Crowbar of Embriage
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,509
They are fun drivers. Enjoy! However, don't be in a rush anywhere as they have even less power than the W123 bodied versions.

If you are considering putting a OM617 in there you may want to reconsider.
__________________
1996 Dodge Ram 5.9L Cummins 12V 4(A) 4.10 - 163K - For Sale
1974 240D 3.0L 4(M) - 250K -OM617.910 + 300D FW + Rajay turbo power!
1977 6.9 3(A) - 84k
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-22-2010, 10:53 PM
79Mercy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,128
Looks like a fun project.

Well you can put a OM617.910 however, installing a turbo diesel motor wont be much fun.
__________________
1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon
1979 280CE 225,200 miles
1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles
1976 240D 190,000 miles
1979 300TD 220,000

GONE but not forgotten
1976 300D 195,300 miles
1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-22-2010, 10:57 PM
JB3 JB3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 6,709
why not, what are the horror stories with the turbo diesel swap? I am mister "makes it work eventually", and I see a rajay powered 115 3.0 in someones signature.

I am not in a rush to do that swap, the engine runs well, but the tranny will have to come down for a new clutch and maybe a rebuild/inspection. Since I will be doing that, I am always interested in possibilities
__________________
This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-22-2010, 10:58 PM
diametricalbenz's Avatar
The Crowbar of Embriage
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,509
Quote:
Originally Posted by 79Mercy View Post
Looks like a fun project.

Well you can put a OM617.910 however, installing a turbo diesel motor wont be much fun.
It can be done with a 910 and a turbocharger but a 95x will be a bit of a challenge. Remote oil filter and turbo clearance are issues to be dealt with.
__________________
1996 Dodge Ram 5.9L Cummins 12V 4(A) 4.10 - 163K - For Sale
1974 240D 3.0L 4(M) - 250K -OM617.910 + 300D FW + Rajay turbo power!
1977 6.9 3(A) - 84k
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-22-2010, 10:59 PM
79Mercy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,128
relocating the oil filter on a OM617.95X is going to be job within itself.
__________________
1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon
1979 280CE 225,200 miles
1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles
1976 240D 190,000 miles
1979 300TD 220,000

GONE but not forgotten
1976 300D 195,300 miles
1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-22-2010, 11:04 PM
JB3 JB3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 6,709
here is the dream, what I would like to build out of this car given lavish resources and time to figure it out, both in short supply currently.

3.0 turbo diesel (in possession) with VGT turbo (in possession), mated to a mk2 custom 5-speed (in the works, having trouble with a few guts though) and a 3.07 rear end (in possession, high mileage though) all in a classic 115 sedan chassis.

How much fun would that be to drive?
__________________
This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-22-2010, 11:15 PM
diametricalbenz's Avatar
The Crowbar of Embriage
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,509
A VGT would be fun. A 5 speed (given the proper ratios) and a 3.07 would be about ideal for the motor.

I have a 3.69 in mine now and it has a nice punch (for a 240D) once the turbo is spooled up.
__________________
1996 Dodge Ram 5.9L Cummins 12V 4(A) 4.10 - 163K - For Sale
1974 240D 3.0L 4(M) - 250K -OM617.910 + 300D FW + Rajay turbo power!
1977 6.9 3(A) - 84k
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-23-2010, 02:09 AM
katja's Avatar
High Maintenance
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 307
Seems many here have that idea of a dream car - Turbo 617 + 5speed in a W115. I only have heard of two....one was in Canada and another was featured on this forum & it looked pretty rough...never heard if it was ever finished.

Your 240D is the same colour as the '69 220D my uncle used to have, that got me first interested in these cars. Though you need to repaint your hub caps...they look like they are from another car (or just strip them & leave them chrome....that looks good too).

Are you sure your glow plugs are dead? If you've never had one of these before, you might not be finding the exact right position for pre-heat. If it starts in under 10 seconds when cold, they're heating up while you crank.

You will love changing the oil! I'm due to change mine this week....can't wait to get....um....oily. Oh then there's the oily air filter too, they don't call it "oil bath" for nothing
__________________
1976 240D "Katja"
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-23-2010, 08:43 AM
JB3 JB3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 6,709
Quote:
Originally Posted by katja View Post

Are you sure your glow plugs are dead? If you've never had one of these before, you might not be finding the exact right position for pre-heat. If it starts in under 10 seconds when cold, they're heating up while you crank.

You will love changing the oil! I'm due to change mine this week....can't wait to get....um....oily. Oh then there's the oily air filter too, they don't call it "oil bath" for nothing
It does start in under 10 seconds, starts in about 8. So the glow plugs are working? I was basing this assumption on A, does not start like the 80 240 with the newer plugs, and B, my salt shaker is not glowing. Something looks burned in there too.
If that were burned out, would the rest of the plugs still work?

Tell me about changing the oil, sounds ominous.
__________________
This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-23-2010, 08:59 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 3,956
You can tell if the GPs are working if, when you are in the pre-glow position (gorilla knob pulled out to just short of the start position) that the cabin and dash warning lights all dim (like in the old movies when the electric chair in the prison was used). The salt shaker can be left out of the circuit, if the GPs were updated to new style in parallel, it very well could have been, but the tell-tale sign is the dimming of the lights. The old "series" style GPs which the car came with would have required the shaker to be in series with them but the new style parallel ones would not. Basically the procedure is pull the knob out to the pre-glow position, count to 5 if it is warm out, count to 15 if it is cold out, and start. Use the idle control knob when it is cold out to keep the idle speed up.
__________________
Marty D.

2013 C300 4Matic
1984 BMW 733i
2013 Lincoln MKz
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-23-2010, 11:31 AM
JB3 JB3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 6,709
thanks! The lights are not dimming, but it still starts in 8 seconds. I think they are not working because it still has the bed spring linked glow plugs in the head, which I am assuming is a series circuit and not an updated type?

Where is the oil filter? Have not gone underneath apart from a rust inspection, but I could not find one just from a cursory engine peek. Don't tell me I have to pull the lower pan and its there?
__________________
This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page