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mikeyfev1 10-04-2010 03:47 PM

No temp reading on the panel
 
Everything seems to be working on my 1985 300D dashboard except the coolant temp meter; it stays at the bottom peg.

Someone said I should replace the sending unit; I asked where it is located and I was told on the side of the head above the glow plugs. I've looked pictures of a new sender and it appears to be a 17mm brass fitting.

Problem is, I don't think I have located it on the engine yet. What I though was it--along with a very questionable wire coming out the top--may be correct but there appears to be *two* of these side by side. Located on the side of the head above the glow plugs, both have a single wire coming out of the top of them, both are brass, both appear to be 17mm.

Am I completely lost here? Anyone have pictures of a coolant temperature sender on the engine? TIA.

toomany MBZ 10-04-2010 04:06 PM

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85's are a bit different, the pic is of an 83-84 617. It's the second "hole" back from the front.

layback40 10-04-2010 07:11 PM

When you get the right one, try briefly touching it to earth. This will allow you to see the gauge needle peg to full scale. If it doesnt, you either have the wrong wire or you have a broken wire.

mikeyfev1 10-04-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by toomany MBZ (Post 2558153)
85's are a bit different, the pic is of an 83-84 617. It's the second "hole" back from the front.

So, just for my info, what is in the first hole that looks exactly like the sending unit?

toomany MBZ 10-04-2010 10:06 PM

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Optical illusion, nothing there, on mine. Green arrows to my sender, red arrows to the first "hole".

An 85, could be something there.

mikeyfev1 10-05-2010 10:55 PM

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OK, here's a picture of my setup. 1985 300D KaliKar.

first300D 10-06-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyfev1 (Post 2559038)
OK, here's a picture of my setup. 1985 300D KaliKar.

Yep Mine looks like that too. Curious what it is.

Also, another question what is the sending unit on the thermostat housing used for ? I see there is one there and one on the water pump housing area too.

4thesporty 10-06-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyfev1 (Post 2558377)
So, just for my info, what is in the first hole that looks exactly like the sending unit?


It triggers the aux fan to high on high engine coolant temp(120C I believe).

first300D 10-06-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 4thesporty (Post 2559402)
It triggers the aux fan to high on high engine coolant temp(120C I believe).

For a 300D I will disagree with you based on what I have read from others.
For 300SD and other cars it might be true but I can't say for certain.

So the question does it do anything on the 300D or is it just there ?

Also I thought the sender in the Thermostat housing on SD's performed the aux fan function but thats just another rumor I read.

toomany MBZ 10-06-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by first300D (Post 2559358)
Also, another question what is the sending unit on the thermostat housing used for ? I see there is one there and one on the water pump housing area too.

That is the thermo switch for the egr valve.

first300D 10-06-2010 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by toomany MBZ (Post 2559477)
That is the thermo switch for the egr valve.

I see... I think....I thought a vacuum activated the EGR. Or is there one of those vacuum bypass/switch thingys that enable/disable the vacuum towards the EGR ? Hmmm

mikeyfev1 10-06-2010 10:34 PM

OK, so let me try to summarize...on a 1985 300D KaliKar:
  • the temp sending unit on the thermostat housing is used to bypass vacuum to the EGR valve below 40C.
  • the front coolant temperature sending unit on the head signals the auxillary cooling fan to come on at 120C,
  • the second coolant temperature sending unit on the head sends temperature information to the dashboard temperature gauge,
  • we have no consensus on what the sending unit on the water pump housing does.
Please make any corrections. When all of the 1985 info is gathered then I'll build a table which then others can add to for other years.

toomany MBZ 10-06-2010 10:42 PM

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Vac goes to it too, the thermo switch sends vacuum through the system.

mikeyfev1 10-12-2010 09:40 PM

Well, it gets funner and funner...

Today I adjusted the valves and noticed that my car does not have any temp sensor on the thermostat housing.


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