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Old 10-14-2010, 02:46 PM
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There is plenty of room for it

I had the figures done for it and there is plenty of room. It might be a bit difficult to install once the flywheel is installed. I figured that the additional ring would have to be between 1/2 and 3/4 inch thick and about 2 inch in width. But the machinist I talked to said that would only weigh about 8 pounds. So it must be at least twice as big as I thought. To do the job really correct one should machine just a cleanup cut on the 240D flywheel, right to just behind the reach of the starter "nose". Then put the flywheel in the freezer over night and some good heat on the newly made ring and pound it on. That is the way the starter gear is held on and all the steam locomotives had their "Tires", which were steel rims, were mounted on the wheels the same way. The flywheel might be cast iron, but I would suspect it to be cast steel. I am going to go through the steel yard next week to see if I can find a piece of junk steel big enough to machine it out. But I suspect it will be hard to find, and if I do find something, very hard and heavy to handle.

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Old 10-14-2010, 04:15 PM
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From what I recall, the GD flywheel uses a bigger clutch than the 240 and 300 automobile versions.
Well yes it does but Not any bigger diameter I dont think.
The 617 37 lb flywheel is also the "truck" flywheel in any european COE style "L" series like the square 207 208 209D's and 307 308 309D's that

Came with a 616 4 cly--and they had double disc clutches.

instead of bigger diameter which isnt possible to put any bigger than the 240d diameter. I can add some pics of a double disc tommorrow.

If Someone cant luck out like you-Which is Extremely rare, You could watch ebay Germany and there os almost always a truck motor listed, You just have to communicate with them somehow and get them to sell the flywheel seperately --get them to ship here.

I always go thru Bing -Ebaymotors.DE and click the little translation page icon to the top right just type in mercedes benz diesel and delite spam listings by -filter -sprinter -vito -etc. For me the searches start out super slow to load but speed up after a few minutes for some reason.

I also had a truck flywheel -as I call them sent from the german guy =Guido at industrial tools -the g wagon guy, it was around $450 total to US.
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Old 10-14-2010, 04:40 PM
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Well yes it does but Not any bigger diameter I dont think.
Yes it is a bigger diameter. 22 vs 20cm
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Looks like I was mistaken-- Its not a double disc clutch after all but one made of two discs and is 9" diameter.
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:36 PM
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...I also had a truck flywheel -as I call them sent from the german guy =Guido at industrial tools -the g wagon guy, it was around $450 total to US.
That's the same guy who got me my 300D flywheel. Really nice guy. He was very helpful in trying to locate a car flywheel for me.
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That's the same guy who got me my 300D flywheel. Really nice guy. He was very helpful in trying to locate a car flywheel for me.
I had mistaken you for Rudolf who snagged one locally for $125. You were the one who posted-Will a gwagon fly work--when I had been eye'ing Guidos auction for several months, The cat was outathu bagg soz I had to bite at that point-Even though I had one from the truck I bought.

Any one need a granny gear 5 speed for their Gwagon-or land cruiser conversion?
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Any one need a granny gear 5 speed for their Gwagon-or land cruiser conversion? [/QUOTE]

How much?
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Any one need a granny gear 5 speed for their Gwagon-or land cruiser conversion?
How much? [/QUOTE]

I would go $800 on it. It uses U joints at the rear instead of flex discs and the shifter is built on the back. 5th is direct.
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Just for discussion's sake, could you swap out the rear flange on that and use a "normal" flex disk?
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Old 10-15-2010, 02:35 PM
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Just for discussion's sake, could you swap out the rear flange on that and use a "normal" flex disk?
Well i'm sure it can be done--Jaggs that run- offer a convert piece-like seen in forum member cell--project GM to Benz has begun - I would have used a stick instead of an automatic.

But this is not suitable for a car. Are you of the GWagon club?

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No, I'm with the inquisitive club.
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:45 PM
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I paid $300 for mine, since it was local. they were cheaper on german ebay but the shipping made up more than the difference
I am in spring hill. I am looking for this 300d M/T flywheel A6170300005 and clutch kit. Where local did you pick the flywheel for 300 if you don't mind me asking.

I know this is an old post but I thought I would give it a shot.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:49 AM
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You're absolutely correct!
Is there a difference in number of teeth, in flywheel plate thickness on either of those like the clutch contact surface? Also how thick is the adapter plate on the engine for manual trans compared to auto?

I know that's a lot of questions but I am working on something that depends very much on the 300d or 240d m/t flywheel

I am dropping an om617 into my land rover. I prefer to keep all MB stuff up to the trans due to balancing. If the 240D is the same diameter I may go with that one if the crank bolts are the same.

The main thing is I have to make an adapter plate to account for the depth match of input shaft and mating the bellhousing of R380 trans and nut f^&* up the harmonics as the om617 is balanced mainly the flywheel.

no thanks on a broken crank shaft
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:10 AM
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The 300gd fw is available I have one in my car.
you have a gd fw on your 300d? and from what year gd for the interchange?
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The clutch diameters are 115mm and 128mm.

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