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gottofixit 11-08-2010 04:51 PM

78 300sd brake pedal going to floor after master cylinder replace and bled
 
I have a 1978 300sd with brake issues. The pedal slowly goes to the floor when the engine is running but not when off. I have replaced the master cylinder twice, both rebuilt form auto parts store, and bled the system from the brake cylinders. I have checked the vac at the pump and get 25inHg. The booster is holding vacuum also. I have looked for fluid leaks and find non. Now i am at a loss. Could air in the system cause this?

Brian Carlton 11-08-2010 04:59 PM

You usually need to bench bleed the m/c prior to installation to ensure there is no air. Bleeding at the wheel cylinders won't free the m/c of air if any is trapped within it (likely).

I've successfully bled it on the vehicle using a kit from Napa. Tubes are connected to the outlets of the m/c and routed back into the reservoir.

vstech 11-08-2010 05:01 PM

agreed. also in question is quality of rebuild... used is better than mcparts junk

H-townbenzoboy 11-08-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2582117)
agreed. also in question is quality of rebuild... used is better than mcparts junk

Why would a used master cylinder be better? Replacing a 30 year old wear item with another 30 year old wear item means you're likely gonna be back in there replacing that sucker again in a short period of time.

gottofixit 11-08-2010 06:37 PM

I did bench bleed the m/c prior to installation.

vstech 11-08-2010 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-townbenzoboy (Post 2582155)
Why would a used master cylinder be better? Replacing a 30 year old wear item with another 30 year old wear item means you're likely gonna be back in there replacing that sucker again in a short period of time.

a quality rebuild would be great, and better indeed than an unknown used MC, but the crap shoot you get from a mcparts for mc's is a guess at best.
if you bench bleed, and flushed the lines, and got all the air out of the calipers, then the only thing left is bad MC.

gottofixit 11-08-2010 07:57 PM

Thanks. Plan to try full bleed tomorrow. If that does not work another m/c i guess.


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