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lutzTD 11-11-2010 09:09 PM

MTUPower pictures
 
here ya go. 2.47 diff on my 82 coupe

MTUpower 11-11-2010 09:30 PM

This one came out of a what version w126 ? It's got the smaller fins- I'll head to the yards and take a pic of a larger finned diff. I think the first gen w126 500 sel came with either version- but the larger finned version is a 2.27 LSD. I better have ALOT of power gain with the Myna pump to have that low of gearing....
Too bad the russian vin site is down to find out by vin if the diff is a LSD.

lutzTD 11-12-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower (Post 2584518)
This one came out of a what version w126 ? It's got the smaller fins- I'll head to the yards and take a pic of a larger finned diff. I think the first gen w126 500 sel came with either version- but the larger finned version is a 2.27 LSD. I better have ALOT of power gain with the Myna pump to have that low of gearing....
Too bad the russian vin site is down to find out by vin if the diff is a LSD.


pretty sure mine came off a 500SEL but I dont remember the year. I ended up looking at the mounting rather than the rear cover. You will need the diff style that uses 4 bolts to mount it to the rear subframe. The others are quite different. I cant remember but I think they have one big bolt off to the side. Just remember to flip the rear mount, otherwise you will be scratching your head how to get it all lined up. ALso make sure you get the axle spacers on the donor. Make sure you have them in your hand otherwise youll miss it or it will fall off later. These go with the diff not the axle so the ones on your car most likely will be different

panZZer 11-12-2010 04:01 PM

And how about the pictures of your car with the ronals?

SD300 11-13-2010 03:24 AM

are 123 & 126 diffs all interchangeable?

MTUpower 11-13-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SD300 (Post 2585359)
are 123 & 126 diffs all interchangeable?

No- first gen w126 ('81-85) may be swapped under certain conditions. That's the gist of this thread. Lutz has done this and I want to install a LSD in my car, and am trying to make the swap as painless/easy as possible- thus the info thread here.

lutzTD 11-13-2010 11:23 AM

I think the best bet would be a SLC if you want the 2.27. I would think they also have LSD diffs too. I dont see them too often but there have been several in the yards lately. I think all those cars were pulled over the last month or so. I havent been to the yard for a while. I am looking for an aluminum subframe for mine before I install new bushings in the back

MTUpower 11-13-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lutzTD (Post 2585473)
I think the best bet would be a SLC if you want the 2.27. I would think they also have LSD diffs too. I dont see them too often but there have been several in the yards lately. I think all those cars were pulled over the last month or so. I havent been to the yard for a while. I am looking for an aluminum subframe for mine before I install new bushings in the back

I'd rather have a bit higher than the 2.27- but want the LSD also- so I think I'm limited. I know there are some 500sel's in the yards here so I'm going to chekc them out and take pics and perhaps pull one. Anyone know how to tell a LSD from a non LSD?

panZZer 11-13-2010 01:15 PM

Theres supposed to be a tag on them--Lutz--Aluminum subframe??

charmalu 11-13-2010 01:33 PM

The only aluminium rear suspention I know of, is the SEC. has the alum trailing arms.

think the consenses is they do not fit. they do look masive from seeing them from under the cars in the yards.

not sure if the sub is aluminum

Charlie

Billybob 11-13-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by charmalu (Post 2585527)
The only aluminium rear suspention I know of, is the SEC. has the alum trailing arms.

think the consenses is they do not fit. they do look masive from seeing them from under the cars in the yards.

not sure if the sub is aluminum

Charlie

I'm pretty sure that the aluminum swingarms used on the 126 coupes also incorporate some anti-squat design geometry into that particular suspension.

panZZer 11-13-2010 02:44 PM

Sec gen 126 swing arms are supposed to be interchangable with a 123 from what i read in a recent wheel bearing thread.

lutzTD 11-13-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer (Post 2585560)
Sec gen 126 swing arms are supposed to be interchangable with a 123 from what i read in a recent wheel bearing thread.


thats what I thought too, so far every SEC aluminum one ive seen has a big knuckle behind the rotor so it looks completely different. If theres one out there, Ill find it eventually :)

DeliveryValve 11-13-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower (Post 2585479)
I'd rather have a bit higher than the 2.27- but want the LSD also- so I think I'm limited. I know there are some 500sel's in the yards here so I'm going to chekc them out and take pics and perhaps pull one. Anyone know how to tell a LSD from a non LSD?


As noted earlier, there is typically a tag to denote a LSD.
It says... "Achtung: Spezial-Ol Sperrdifferential"
Which basically means Attention: Special Oil limited slip differential

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1289692520


If the tag is not there, then the diff cover will need to be opened to look for the clutches.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1289692531



BTW - If you get desperate in needing a LSD, those pics are from a 2nd Gen 2.47 from a 560SEL that I can let go at a not so cheap price. I am betting that you can transfer the guts into a 1st Gen 2.47 housing to make it work. PM me if interested.



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MTUpower 11-14-2010 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliveryValve (Post 2585684)
As noted earlier, there is typically a tag to denote a LSD.
It says... "Achtung: Spezial-Ol Sperrdifferential"
Which basically means Attention: Special Oil limited slip differential

If the tag is not there, then the diff cover will need to be opened to look for the clutches.

BTW - If you get desperate in needing a LSD, those pics are from a 2nd Gen 2.47 from a 560SEL that I can let go at a not so cheap price. I am betting that you can transfer the guts into a 1st Gen 2.47 housing to make it work. PM me if interested.

I hope to find such tags in the yards here shortly- thanks for the info. I see the pic shows the start of much larger fins also- are both pics from a gen II LSD? Thanks for the offer but south florida has some of the best MB yards in the world for parts.

DeliveryValve 11-15-2010 02:46 PM

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... I see the pic shows the start of much larger fins also- are both pics from a gen II LSD? Thanks for the offer but south florida has some of the best MB yards in the world for parts.

Yes they are. Here is a comparison shot of that second gen 1.3L LSD housing and a w123/w126 3.07 1.1L housing with a early finned cover.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1289850043


First gen LSD 2.47 diffs are impossible to find. I highly doubt you will ever find one in your local yards, but I hope you prove me wrong. 2.65 LSD maybe a bit easier if you find a 6.9. I think 2.24 LSD would be the easiest to find in the yards, but way too tall for your application.


Good luck in your search.






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MTUpower 11-22-2010 10:34 PM

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Here's a gen II w126 LSD but I do not think it'll fit in a w123. I have seen 6.9 in the yards, so I'll be keeping my eyes out for them and the LSD- would that fit in a w123? BTW here's a early w116 with strange exhaust manifolds and nearly perfect front bumper

MTUpower 11-23-2010 08:25 AM

As you can see in my last post the LSD has thick rubber around the diff on the axles. I'd bet a nickel that all LSD axles have the thicker rubber there.


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