Jacksonville florida unemployment is at an all time high.....

Because the US imports something like 40% of its oil at the moment. That situation is not sustainable. As long as energy prices are ridiculously low, americans will continue to use more than they produce and there is very little incentive to develop alternatives. It is inevitable that oil prices will increase significantly over the next few years/decades, who do you want to control that process?

I have no knowledge of any site member that really wants higher prices. It is just pretty well inevatable we will get them.

Actually it is not anything new as prices have always been tending upward in real dollars for perhaps twenty years now. It is the sudden spikes that get people excited and involved.

I think the present and recient methology is to spike prices high and when they decline make people feel good. Except the decline is usually never back to the prices before the spike.

Whoever said you can fool most of the people most of the time probably got it right.

I'm fortunate that it's been many years since I've had to endure the daily commute.
However, for those who think that living far from work was a frivolous choice, for many it was the only choice to find decent housing during a time when real-estate prices were skyrocketing.
Conversly, despite lower housing prices in many areas today, it's not so simple to pull up stakes and move closer in, since many would be upside-down if they could sell. New, restrictive lending rules are making it much more difficult for those that otherwise would be able buy. So what should someone do to shorten their commute? Walk away from their mortgages and live in their cars?
Perhaps if we had some sort of a competent and comprehensive energy policy, that didn't rely on knee-jerk, feel-good regulations everytime there's a crisis....

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I agree, this has been going on for 40 years now and we still don't have any kind of coherent energy policy. Personally, I think it would be better to raise energy prices predictably over a 5-10 year period than to wait for them to spike up unpredictably. I understand why that is not going to happen, so we should not be surprised when fuel sudden jumps to $5-6/gallon at some point in the future in response to some political or market event (real or fabricated). I have no idea if it's going to happen in one year or ten years, but I would be willing to bet that it will happen.

Uh, yes you do have an option with diesels... they'll burn your choice of fuel. Some of which can be had for free.

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Scott McPhee

1987 300D

$3.85 at a Chevron station in north Seattle yesterday, and that was the cheaper of the two stations I chose between.

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1984 300D, 228k, Light Ivory, Java MB-Tex

3.79 santa monica right off of the 405.


The diesel prices here are killing me! I want to go home where it's cheap.

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Just put in a little under 4 gallons of diesel at $3.79/gal in my 5 gal tank, went a combined 800 miles (D2 and VO) on that so that comes to 200 miles per diesel gallon .

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85 300D turbo pristine w 157k when purchased 161K now
83 300 D turbo 297K runs great. SOLD!
83 240D 4 spd manual- parted out then junked

$4.07 at a shell station in valley blvd, city of industry!! Its close to the freeway exit so im not surprised.

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'85 300D Cal 280,000 miles
'14 GLK 350 60000 miles

3.45/9

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1987 300TD 311,000M Stolen. Presumed destroyed

3.59 at a truck stop in Fontana Ca.

Four dollars and sixty five cents for an American gallon of diesel in Nova Scotia Canada this week. The price changes by the week here.

It is starting to look at being higher this summer already. Last summer suprised me by not getting too high. A portion of society at some point will have to learn to disipline themselves to control excess usage of fuel if they do not posses the means.

It is very true the middle class seems to be noticeably shrinking. So this will pertain especially to those that are falling on the wrong side and I expect they are the majority.

In a way it is a shame the way things are playing out in North America. For most of my families lifetime things were pretty good for almost all people.

The principal change I envision is now the ideal of current generations helping future generations of their family getting established properly is becoming more important. It may become too difficult otherwise in the future. I try to lead currently in our family by example where possible and not interfering at the same time. My wife agrees and participates as well.

sierra foothills of california (grass valley) has been climbing steadily to $3.95 for D2. rug is about 30 cents less. will easily top $4 next week.

charlotte, nc area, went from a low of 3.46 to a low of 3.65 this weekend... VERY ANNOYING.

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1987 190D 2.5Turbo
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1987 300TD
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