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Old 01-03-2011, 11:44 AM
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Is this true? I thought that since the PNPs had batch buyers for the Cats, they simply had rules that they would be removed with the fluids, is it hazardous somehow?

Now I'm even more attached to my spare 300D Cat.

Nice Marty, shows some class. A bit of a marketing twist though, ... which I guess is a good thing.

The cars are put up on stands with all fluids removed, well most, I have been surprised a few times.
The catalitic convertors are part of the smog emissions devises, and used ones can`t be sold. I don`t know about batch buyers on these devises.

I pulled and engine from a 85 300D a few yrs back that had the Trap in it. the price was for all components FW to Fan. I left the Trap on, and the store manager said it was a CONVERTOR AND I HAD TO REMOVE IT. I told her it wasn`t, and she was standing her gtound until a mexican that works there told her Diesels don`t have Catalitic Convertors. she grudgendly let it go.

But did charge me for the turbo, saying it was a bolted on device.

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Old 01-03-2011, 08:01 PM
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Irrespective of how broke you are.....

There are 5,280 feet in a mile, and 3,600 seconds in an hour, so 60 mph is 88 feet per second.

An 1,800 lb car moving at 88 feet per second = 158,400 foot pounds, which according to my maths (2,800 fps x 0.25 lbs = 700 foot pounds for a .50 cal BMG) = 226 and a bit.

So your average MB doing 60 has the same energy a 226 rounds from a 50 cal.

Into this mix, no matter how broke you are, you do not throw in used brake parts, used transmission parts (I used to work recovery, I have had to pick up the pieces after a prop shaft dropped and dug in at 60 mph on the motorway), used suspension parts or used steering parts.

Besides, it is not as though pattern parts, or even OEM MB parts, are expensive, if you can't afford em, you can't afford a merc, not even a 30 year old one.

When it goes wrong, you have the same uncontrolled energy floating around as a couple of hundred heavy machine gun bullets, and if anyone (else) is injured or killed, you should be up on a manslaughter charge.

I'm sure your "Hey, I was only trying to save twenty bucks!" defence plea will fall on sympathetic ears.
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:28 PM
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Irrespective of how broke you are.....

There are 5,280 feet in a mile, and 3,600 seconds in an hour, so 60 mph is 88 feet per second.

An 1,800 lb car moving at 88 feet per second = 158,400 foot pounds, which according to my maths (2,800 fps x 0.25 lbs = 700 foot pounds for a .50 cal BMG) = 226 and a bit.

So your average MB doing 60 has the same energy a 226 rounds from a 50 cal.

Into this mix, no matter how broke you are, you do not throw in used brake parts, used transmission parts (I used to work recovery, I have had to pick up the pieces after a prop shaft dropped and dug in at 60 mph on the motorway), used suspension parts or used steering parts.

Besides, it is not as though pattern parts, or even OEM MB parts, are expensive, if you can't afford em, you can't afford a merc, not even a 30 year old one.

When it goes wrong, you have the same uncontrolled energy floating around as a couple of hundred heavy machine gun bullets, and if anyone (else) is injured or killed, you should be up on a manslaughter charge.

I'm sure your "Hey, I was only trying to save twenty bucks!" defence plea will fall on sympathetic ears.
What a load of BS?

Are you driving a new Merc EVERYDAY? Is the flex disc in your W124 a new one everyday or an aging one ( by 1 day every day )? What is the different between an used car with an 'used' steering and replacing a crap outed steering with an 'used' one. There is a market for everything, new or used. It is your decision, and your decision alone, to buy the part and install it. What is junk yard for? What is secondary housing market for? You live in a new house everyday, just in case the old one you live in will collapse?
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:30 PM
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What a load of BS?

Are you driving a new Merc EVERYDAY? Is the flex disc in your W124 a new one everyday or an aging one ( by 1 day every day )? What is the different between an used car with an 'used' steering and replacing a crap outed steering with an 'used' one. There is a market for everything, new or used. It is your decision, and your decision alone, to buy the part and install it. What is junk yard for? What is secondary housing market for? You live in a new house everyday, just in case the old one you live in will collapse?
Agreed.

The argument makes no sense unless you change the flex discs every two days. Otherwise it could fail at any moment.
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:39 PM
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This member of our forum has a 100% feedback rating selling used parts after 2733 transactions.

You are attempting to criticize a member with four neutral responses over 2733 transactions.

NFW anybody can possibly do better than this with used parts.

You owe Marty an apology..........or, consider yourself a troll...........and I will ask the moderator to eliminate you from DD.

Thank you to all the members who have sent me messages of support both here by PM, on other forums & by private email.

While I would not be that game to do as some have suggested, it does show many of us have a sense of humor.

The mirror mirror on the wall & the Cinderella ones really gave us all a good laugh here! No way they could be posted here though!!

I have no knowledge or affiliation with the ebay seller mespe.
Have never purchased from him or sold to him.

Any one who makes an offer of special treatment for members of this forum should be given positive consideration by the forum members.
I dont believe though that any member should be advertising by way of a link, a commercial biz on this forum (no offense meant).

Any statements I make are of a general nature.
Best that any one makes their own inquiries about who they do biz with.

With regard to any threat of "Banning or Elimination". I have not received any correspondence from any current mod or our webmaster concerning or suggesting this. I do see such threats as bullying.

I have found our new mod to be a very decent fair person (I hope thats not the kiss of death, John !!) & go so far as to suggest that he deserves every ones respect & support.
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Old 01-03-2011, 10:15 PM
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I have no knowledge or affiliation with the ebay seller mespe.
Have never purchased from him or sold to him.


With regard to any threat of "Banning or Elimination". I have not received any correspondence from any current mod or our webmaster concerning or suggesting this. I do see such threats as bullying.

I have found our new mod to be a very decent fair person (I hope thats not the kiss of death, John !!) & go so far as to suggest that he deserves every ones respect & support.
And, yet, you have absolutely no problem maligning him on the forum............


You can thank that Mod for having more tolerance for your BS than I would have. Attacking a forum member without cause when you have no business relationship with him is completely improper and you know it. And yet, you continue to defend your actions as entirely proper.

Yes, he's an eminently fair and decent person. He's gone out of his way to attempt to control your behavior via PM when he should have slapped you right on the forum. Ah, well..........the new moderation...........be thankful for it.
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Old 01-04-2011, 03:46 AM
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And, yet, you have absolutely no problem maligning him on the forum............


You can thank that Mod for having more tolerance for your BS than I would have. Attacking a forum member without cause when you have no business relationship with him is completely improper and you know it. And yet, you continue to defend your actions as entirely proper.

Yes, he's an eminently fair and decent person. He's gone out of his way to attempt to control your behavior via PM when he should have slapped you right on the forum. Ah, well..........the new moderation...........be thankful for it.

you gave me three infractions, all within the space of a couple of minutes, for telling someone, quite correctly, that they were a fool

now here you are again (I have seen you doing this before) throwing your weight around, being a hypocrite, and insulting someone while complaining that they are insulting someone else.

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Old 01-04-2011, 03:46 AM
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Agreed.

The argument makes no sense unless you change the flex discs every two days. Otherwise it could fail at any moment.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:46 AM
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Agreed.

The argument makes no sense unless you change the flex discs every two days. Otherwise it could fail at any moment.
BC,
Either you are trolling, or you are providing information you should know not to be factually correct.

As a Mechanical Engineer you should be perfectly conversant with service life considerations.

A flex disk has a designed maximum service life, you should know what that means and how to calculate it for many components. I suspect there are members on this forum less than 1/2 your age who have recently studied such.

If the flex disk is mounted in a car, it is reasonable to say it must have had a service life so far no more than the distance the car has traveled.
If you have a flex disk that you dont know the history of and you have not undertaken appropriate testing of, you have to assume that it is at the end of its service life & junk it. Your experience in aviation should further confirm your knowledge of this.

To perpetrate your present line of argument should be seen as just attempting to troll others & not add to the forum.
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:33 AM
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The real question is, Would you put this part on your car?

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Old 01-04-2011, 08:48 AM
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sorry for the big picture, but in this case a smaller picture just wouldn't work.

Let's just agree to disagree. I need to sell every good useable part. In fact some people ask me for some damaged parts because undamaged parts can get very expensive.

I provide a service, I stand behind my product, as you can probably tell, I use the same userid here as I do on eBay and other forums. That in and of itself, should tell you that I take my business serious enough not to try to hide behind various user IDs.

with that said, please refrain from not using the urinals for their intended purposes . (an attempt at humor, please take with NaCl)
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:08 AM
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no, the real question is "is there someone out there that is short enough on funds to buy a used part"

apparently on this forum, there are those with the opinion that critical parts should never be replaced with used. no matter what the appearance of that part is.
fine.
the opinion has been made.
there are those that will put a used part in place of a damaged part when they are low on funds.
fine.
that opinion has been made.
there are those that will supply the used part to those who want it. they are not going to try to sell it to someone that does not want to buy it.
fine.

no matter how many times you tell someone that needs to drive to work, that a used part should not be used, if they don't have the money for new, they are not going to walk. they are going to put the used part on.
it's their money. don't shoot them because they don't think the same way as you.

no more arguments on this.
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...this is why it's a good idea to visually inspect the bolt areas on a regular basis. during your semiannual brake flush is a good time.
it's RUBBER people it can fail quickly!
You flush your brake fluid twice a year?
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:14 AM
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you gave me three infractions, all within the space of a couple of minutes, for telling someone, quite correctly, that they were a fool

now here you are again (I have seen you doing this before) throwing your weight around, being a hypocrite, and insulting someone while complaining that they are insulting someone else.

moderation of boards/lists is like the Presidency, it should never under any circumstances be given to anyone who wants the job.


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And, you probably deserved every single one of them.

It must be excellent that Layback has you to defend him. Clearly, you can't discern an insult from a fact.

Nobody cares what you think about who is suitable for the Presidency............trust me on that.

Sad that you had to edit your insulting comments. The new moderator would have enjoyed them.
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:15 AM
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You flush your brake fluid twice a year?
bi-annual?
I flush every two years... sorry for the confusion.

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