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Diesel911 01-09-2011 03:32 PM

Spin-On Oil Filter Mod for 617???
 
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I only noticed this Ebay Seller who is selling a service that modifies your own 617 Oil Filter Housing to take a Spin-on Oil Filter for about $220.

I do not see the benefit of doing this expensive mod unless there is a finer lower Micron filter that could be used.

It also looks like it could make the Oil Filter change a little more messy.

But, I would some opinions from others.

rscurtis 01-09-2011 03:59 PM

I agree. That's a whole lot of work for very little benefit. And don't discount the time required to R&R your original filter housing. It will take an awful lot of filter changes to make up that time.

Mercedes put a lot of engineering effort into these cars, and it seems to have withstood the test of time.

okyoureabeast 01-09-2011 04:09 PM

I don't know if the effort of installing such a device would be worth it with the engine in the car.

Now if you had the engine out of the car, it would be really easy to install it.

Otherwise I'm happy with the standard oil filter we have.

Diesel911 01-09-2011 04:49 PM

I agree with posts #2 and #3.
The Full Flow Section of the original Mercedes Filter has about the same filtration level as most spin-ons 21-27 nominal Microns.
You can also buy a lot of Mercedes type filters for the $220 cost of the Mod.

But, the mod must have some appeal to someone.

79Mercy 01-09-2011 04:54 PM

I think this was made for when installing a 617.912 and later motors into a different car where the stock filter setup will not fit.

kerry 01-09-2011 04:55 PM

Someone on the forum makes an adapter plate to do the same thing except the filter is mounted remotely. That plate is probably far better for adaptations of he 617 to other vehicles and probably makes oil changes easier than the one in the picture on this thread.

Diesel911 01-09-2011 05:14 PM

I went to Ebay and questioned the Seller as to what he thought the advantages of the mod were.

But, it could take 2 days to get an answer if he answers.

ForcedInduction 01-09-2011 08:37 PM

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I don't see any advantage to spending $220 on that ebay mod. It looks like it would make a very big mess as soon as you loosen the filter, unless you poke a hole in its bottom first so it can drain.
The options I chose to use, since the stock "bypass filter" is garbage, are a remote mounted Amsoil EaBP90 bypass filter and a Wix 51385 primary filter (since it is a completely full-flow design, no internal section barrier).

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=51385

eby 170578418345 is the topic's item.

vstech 01-09-2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 2631664)
I don't see any advantage to spending $220 on that ebay mod. It looks like it would make a very big mess as soon as you loosen the filter, unless you poke a hole in its bottom first so it can drain.
The options I chose to use, since the stock "bypass filter" is garbage, are a remote mounted Amsoil EaBP90 bypass filter and a Wix 51385 primary filter (since it is a completely full-flow design, no internal section barrier).

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=51385

eby 170578418345 is the topic's item.

Forced,
could you point out a write up or make one to break down your mods to the oil system?

ForcedInduction 01-09-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2631697)
Forced,
could you point out a write up or make one to break down your mods to the oil system?

There isn't much to it. Tap the filter base for an oil supply, pick a place to mount the filter and pick a place to drain the oil.

My supply was the filter lid.
The filter was mounted on the LF fender by the washer tank.
The return was the valve cover. The cleaned oil goes directly onto the timing chain so the chain sees more than splash lubrication.

Diesel911 01-09-2011 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2631697)
Forced,
could you point out a write up or make one to break down your mods to the oil system?

Here is ForcedInduction's past Thread:
By-pass oil filter install
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/168135-pass-oil-filter-install.html

ForcedInduction 01-09-2011 11:16 PM

Hey! How about that, I thought all my old posts got deleted! :D

Diesel911 01-10-2011 10:35 AM

I recieved a response from the Seller of the Filter Mod:
"The spin-on is more convenient (easier to change). That's the only real advantage.
- rdavisinva''

pawoSD 01-10-2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911 (Post 2632110)
I recieved a response from the Seller of the Filter Mod:
"The spin-on is more convenient (easier to change). That's the only real advantage.
- rdavisinva''

The fact that he put a purolator on it in the pic just adds insult to injury. You'd think he'd have at least used a nice tall Bosch filter or something. :rolleyes:

The stock setup is going to provide much better filtration than that thing...especially if using a good cartridge. I use Baldwin filters, they're just about the best you can find....

charmalu 01-10-2011 11:43 AM

I din`t see any advantage, sits upside down, remove it and spill oil.
too small, I suppose it is just for show and tell, and there are larger spin on filters that will work.

For the cost of the mod, you could drive 50,000 miles with normal changes using stock filters.

So what is so hard about the stock filter to change?

I have no problems making improvements for efficiency, but not this.

Charlie


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