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Old 01-20-2011, 11:29 AM
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I've gotten a lot of quality tools at auctions and can get some pretty good deals on most
brands. Just as an observation, when there are Snap On tools being sold, there are always bidders who wrench for a living. They rarely sell at low prices.

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Old 01-20-2011, 12:53 PM
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As someone else said, I can survive with Craftsmen for their non mechanical tools usually, but anything with gears such as a ratchet, I look elsewhere.

I am a big fan of "Williams" brand which is not the industrial division of Snap-On. At my old job, I once found a 3/8 ratchet in a Cat generator straight from Cat factory. I love the feel of it and wound up buying another one. Another friend found one and it lost a bolt from the back so he was always tightening the other one. Anyhow, mine eventually broke (slipping gears) and so I grabbed both mine and my friends and sent them to their factory in GA. Williams sent back two completely new ratchets, and his was only missing a screw! So I am a fan of Williams!
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:55 PM
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German steel used to be better than US. I bet it still is.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:11 PM
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German steel used to be better than US. I bet it still is.

I would bet there are grades of steel in germany.

A true story:
The guys who made the Model 1895 and original 1898 Mausers at the Oberndorf factory used an alloy whose exact composition was later lost in a fire. Those original rifles last far longer than anything else, even much more modern ones and are highly prized.

I wonder if aliens did them or what?
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:46 PM
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I would bet there are grades of steel in germany.

A true story:
The guys who made the Model 1895 and original 1898 Mausers at the Oberndorf factory used an alloy whose exact composition was later lost in a fire. Those original rifles last far longer than anything else, even much more modern ones and are highly prized.

I wonder if aliens did them or what?
I'd almost bet that someone with spectrum analysis would be able to recreate that alloy. But if I had to bet my bottom dollar, I'd guess heat treatment also was a secret method, and a major part of the process as well...
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:47 PM
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i wrenched for 30 years professionally, and either american or name brand german are fine. i have never seen a quality tool from china, india, pakistan or taiwan. on the really big wrenches over 1" or 25mm, they are so thick even the cheap ones won't break unless you get really rough w/ em. cheap sockets, ratchets, screwdrivers, etc. aren't worth the price even if they're free. when you ruin your work or damage your hand, you'll agree with me.
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Old 01-24-2011, 05:16 PM
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i own lotsa tools-snap-on, craftsman, sk, williams, hazet, stahwille, gedore, usag, mac, matco, easco, kd, bonney, new britain-both danaher and stanley, and proto. all chrome hand tools. been a mechanic for more than 20 years. there are cheap grades and good stuff that will literally last a lifetime. i doubt the hazets you keep will give you a problem. good luck, chuck.

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