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Startup tips for a car that has been sitting
My neighbor has a 190D that has been sitting for 18 months or so. It ran fine when they parked it other than a bad heater core. He came over and asked if I could help him get it started. What kinds of things should I try to get it running? I was thinking battery, maybe pump the fuel pump if it lost prime?
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Making sure the battery is charged is a good place to start. What year is the 190D? If I'm not mistaken the w201 190D's don't have primer pumps.
I'd crank it for 10 seconds at a time until it starts. You don't want to burn up your starter. |
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it's not really cold enough right now to cause problems, but it would not hurt to put a quart of white dieselpower in the fuel tank first... summer fuel may be ickky.
glow the car for 30 seconds, until the relay clicks off, then glow again for another 30 seconds, then crank. if it does not start in the first 20 seconds, stop, and loosen all the injector line nuts at the injectors. then crank again (without glowing) and see if fuel seeps out of each nut. if not, crank until it does, then tighten up the nuts and see if it starts.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 1987 300TD 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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It may be an 87.
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oh. it'll help if the rear is above the front. get a little gravity pushing the fuel to the IP.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 1987 300TD 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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gimme a call if you need a hand.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 1987 300TD 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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Make sure you have a good battery; charge it, load test it, warm it up indoors before your start attempts if you can. A spare battery is a good idea as well.
Obviously, if it has a block heater and you can get power to that, use it to warm the engine before trying to start it. You might as well take the opportunity to test the glow plugs. Not sure what spec is on the 190s, but they should all read very low resistance on a volt/ohm meter. You've probably lost prime on the fuel pump unless the system is exceptionally well sealed. If you don't have a primer pump or it doesn't seem to be working, one trick is to disconnect the supply and return lines, then use an air compressor to put a few psi of air into the tank through the return line, which should move fuel down the supply line. You have to do this very gradually, not more than a couple seconds of air flow at a time. You can also use a MightyVac or similar to pull fuel down the supply line with the return line disconnected or the fuel fill cap off. If you do that, make sure you have a collection jar hooked up (used for bleeding brakes) or length of clear tubing so you don't suck fuel into the vac. Once you have fuel at the IP, you can open up the lines at the injectors and crank until you see fuel there, then re-tighten. This will also move some oil around the engine. Don't crank more than 20 seconds at a time, with at least a minute in between tries. I'm not sure if the 190 requires manual valve adjustments, but if it does, having that set correct will be critical to getting enough compression to start the engine. DO NOT under any circumstances use ether or any other 'starting aid' with the glow plug system energized.
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I'd throw in a thorough inspection of belts, hoses, fluids, air intake, etc. Make sure no critters took up residence anywhere, the coolant didn't leak out the bad heater core, etc.
Since your neighbor asked for help getting it started is this because a) he's cautious and looking for assistance BEFORE trying; or b) he's already tried and it's not working? |
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Insert key and turn.
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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He tried cranking but get it started. The battery must not be completely dead. He is not the type who works on his own vehicle.
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