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Old 02-23-2011, 09:30 AM
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Primer pump question

Is the pump that FastLane sells exactly the same as an OEM one from a MB dealership? If so, there's nothing I can do about it now, but when I have to replace it again, I'm definitely not going through the dealership. I can't believe how much I'm getting raped on the bill.

I'm going to start doing more of the mechanical work on my own. I refuse to pay such a high price for parts that don't seem like they should cost that much.

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Old 02-23-2011, 09:51 AM
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How much is the dealer price? I think the only way to tell if they are the same (as in made in the same factory) is to have both side by side and look with a magnifying glass and a discerning eye.

I eliminated mine totally when I was chasing an air leak and am happy with the results. One less source of air leak to deal with.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:07 AM
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Dealer price is around $350. The Bosch unit via FastLane was only $20 something shipped.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:15 AM
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Dealer price is around $350. The Bosch unit via FastLane was only $20 something shipped.
Holy s***!!! Buy the Fastlane one. It's not a critical mechanical part.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:32 AM
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$$$$$ NFW!
they must have replaced the primer AND the lift pump... it's STILL overpriced though...
http://www.allpartsexpress.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1983-MERCEDES--BENZ-300sd--/l5_3.0l_diesel_turbo-Fuel--Pumps&yearid=1983&makeid=MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40X&engineid=1194027%40%40300SD+%2FL5_3.0L_DIESEL_Turbo%40%40300SD&catid=Fuel+Pumps&subcatid=Fuel%20Pre%20Pump&mode=PA

I get stuff from the dealer all the time. no way it's 2000% markup on that pump!
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I get stuff from the dealer all the time. no way it's 2000% markup on that pump!
There is no such thing as "the" dealer.
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:37 AM
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I'm the last one to defend a dealer, but they had to of misquoted you. Probably gave you a price for the primer pump and primer pump "housing", or whatever it is that the primer pump attaches to...

Which reminds me, I've got a nifty Monark primer pump sitting in my garage. I bought it for the 240D, but the original wouldn't budge and still worked last filter change...
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:44 AM
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Holy s***!!! Buy the Fastlane one. It's not a critical mechanical part.
Believe me, anything that I can fix on my own, I'm getting from Fastlane. I've got a Haynes service manual that'll probably become a best friend over the years. I figured the MB dealership would be more expensive, but my stomach fell through the floor when I saw how much more.

@vstech Yes I believe you're correct. I believe it included everything that was in the link you posted. My mechanic must've felt it was better to replace the whole shebang. Car's now 26 years young, after all.
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Believe me, anything that I can fix on my own, I'm getting from Fastlane. I've got a Haynes service manual that'll probably become a best friend over the years. I figured the MB dealership would be more expensive, but my stomach fell through the floor when I saw how much more.

@vstech Yes I believe you're correct. I believe it included everything that was in the link you posted. My mechanic must've felt it was better to replace the whole shebang. Car's now 26 years young, after all.
I thought my Haynes would be good too. I've been disappointed. I think you are better off getting your hands on a FSM CD.

The Bosch hand pumps are OK - though I've noticed that mine gets a bit stubborn after a bit of use.
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I imagine the bosh primer pumps are of Chinese manufacturer now. The last pair I got where sourced in China. Clearly marked bosh on the boxes. This is the finger plunger type that you do not unscrew to use. Black knob.
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I thought my Haynes would be good too. I've been disappointed. I think you are better off getting your hands on a FSM CD.

The Bosch hand pumps are OK - though I've noticed that mine gets a bit stubborn after a bit of use.
Stubborn how? And I do have another manual that I haven't really looked through because I was under the impression that the Haynes manual was quite good.
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The Haynes manual is OK for doing regular maintenance, but when you do large jobs it leaves out multiple important steps. I was using it to remove the old automatic transmission in my wagon, the Haynes manual missed several steps to get the job done. The forum is what saved me...

I put a new style primer pump in. By stubborn i think he might mean it's hard to press down. It is more difficult to push down than the original style i used to have, but it doesn't leak diesel everywhere like the old one did!
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Is the pump that FastLane sells exactly the same as an OEM one from a MB dealership? If so, there's nothing I can do about it now, but when I have to replace it again, I'm definitely not going through the dealership. I can't believe how much I'm getting raped on the bill.

I'm going to start doing more of the mechanical work on my own. I refuse to pay such a high price for parts that don't seem like they should cost that much.
This is the OEM: BOSCH

Note:This brand has a 16 mm threaded fitting, and comes with a 22 mm adapter. Can be used for models with either a 16 or 22 mm receptacle on the fuel pump.

Fastlane: Diesel Primer Pump
http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=W0133-1715211




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Stubborn how? And I do have another manual that I haven't really looked through because I was under the impression that the Haynes manual was quite good.
My experience with the Bosch hand pump:-

You push down it springs up

You push down it springs up

...this carries on as it should for a while...


You push down...


...it stays down and laughs at you...


...then it pops back up just when you reach for a hammer!


Like I said stubborn.
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My experience with the Bosch hand pump:-

You push down it springs up

You push down it springs up

...this carries on as it should for a while...


You push down...


...it stays down and laughs at you...


...then it pops back up just when you reach for a hammer!


Like I said stubborn.
Haha ok. Bear in mind, I'm a mechanic in training, so to speak. So anytime I ask a question that seems obvious or stupid, I'm not being sarcastic, I genuinely don't know. Add to that, I've never owned a diesel before, I've only ever driven gas cars. I'm only 23, got a long way to go in terms of learning about cars.

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