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Old 03-10-2011, 01:51 PM
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At 14 V you're regulator is fine. To measure key off power usage, did you disconnect the battery + cable and put the ammeter in series on the milli amp scale?
Could it be that it's still the regulator? That this variance in charging voltage might be a sign that it's going? I'm measuring key off power usage correctly.

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I'm not exactly sure what is happening but may be some of the electrical testing links given in this thread (post #1) will help?

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Old 03-10-2011, 02:24 PM
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Could it be that it's still the regulator? That this variance in charging voltage might be a sign that it's going? I'm measuring key off power usage correctly.
I don't think so. A regulator is a solid state device with no moving parts and do not wear out. They only go bad if you exceed it's rating in voltage and temperature. If it's an intermittent problem, I'd be more inclined to look at the 3 prong connector and the spring contact (in the alternator) to the regulator. Scrape clean those contacts and make sure they are not loose. You may have to put tension back on the spade lugs by squeezing them with pliers.
Leave you DVM hooked up while you drive and see what the charge voltage is at all times and report back.
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I'm drawing about 600 mA with everything off. I was pulling 1500 mA (draining the battery) before I pulled the fuse for the rear window heater. I'm not too familiar with the electrical system. Are there any common problem areas? What else can I do besides pulling fuses and checking amperage draw?
If you pulled the fuse and the draw went to a measured 600 mA, then put the ammeter across the window heater fuse connection (meter takes the place of the fuse). In theory, if everything else stayed the same, you should still have a 900 mA draw on that circuit. That would at least verify there was a high draw condition on that circuit.

It doesn't explain the phantom 600 mA that were there then disappeared yet.

If there is a high draw on the window heater, then replace the fuse and remeasure the overall draw at the battery. It should be incrementally higher than the draw at the heater fuse if the heater is the only problem. If the heater is the problem, you've at least isolated the circuit causing the draw problems.
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Well, I just replaced the fuse and measured the draw and it was still zero. As for the charging issue, I think it's the plug. I measured 12.3 V with the engine running and I wiggled the plug and it jumped to 13.6 V. Still not sure what's up with the phantom draw, though.
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Alright, again, still not sure what happened to the phantom draw, but I've figured out why I measure zero draw-my ammeter doesn't read below 10 mA. Here's what I'm using: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_03482141000P?prdNo=3&blockNo=3&blockType=G3

I'm starting to think I had left something on when I was measuring that pull.
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Alright, again, still not sure what happened to the phantom draw, but I've figured out why I measure zero draw-my ammeter doesn't read below 10 mA. Here's what I'm using: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_03482141000P?prdNo=3&blockNo=3&blockType=G3

I'm starting to think I had left something on when I was measuring that pull.
Your meter can measure milli-amp. Stick the red lead in the V/ohm/ma hole and the DC A scale to 200 m,, not 10A.
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Back in the old days when we used Analog Multimeters, we would always start at the highest voltage or amp settings on the meter. That way, if the voltage or amperage was very high, we wouldn't blow the instrument.

If you get a reading in the lower end of the scale, you'd check it's value and switch to a better range for a more accurate reading. Work your way down one step at a time until you get a good reading.

I figure, the same kind of precautions couldn't hurt when using a DMM.

Measure voltage across the component.
Measure resistance across the disconnected component.
Measure current inline with the flow. Or, with inductive (probably only works on AC) current measurement.

Using Ohm's law, if you have any two of Voltage, Resistance, or Current, you can calculate the other one. Current (I) = Voltage (E) / Resistance (R). Manipulate equation algebraically to isolate desired term.

Forgive me if I'm telling you something you already know. But, hopefully, if it wasn't known, then this might help.
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I guess I can try measuring across the fuse, but I don't know if I'll get anything. I'm not too worried about it. I cleaned the 3-prong plug and everything seems to be working just dandy now.
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To measure key off power usage, did you disconnect the battery + cable and put the ammeter in series on the milli amp scale?

NOT ACROSS THE FUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NOT ACROSS THE FUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah, that makes sense, lol. Where else can I try measuring if I don't get anything at the battery?

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