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Old 01-12-2002, 11:14 PM
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Unhappy OM603 - oil level sensor oddity

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When I bought my second '87 300D last summer, several service records noted that the PO complained of the oil level idiot light on the dash coming on under hard left turns. The dealers never found the cause, and/or couldn't duplicate the problem. I noticed it also, it only happens when the oil is hot (20+ minutes of driving). Once I got to go around a loooooong left turn, a big sweeper on a mountainside, at 55+ MPH, for a good 30 seconds or so. The light stayed on the whole time yet the oil pressure remained pegged at "3". So, I'm not worried about screwing up the engine. I assumed the sender was flaky, and since these senders tend to start leaking anyway, I replaced it - hoping that would cure the problem. Yesterday I changed the oil (Delvac-1) and put the new sensor in. Guess what? Same problem. It's obviously not the oil type, or the sender itself (old one appeared fine when removed.) Yes, the oil level is correct, before (between marks) and after the change (put in 8.0 quarts).

Question: What could cause this? Is there some baffling in the oil pan that a previous mechanic could have removed, causing this problem? My other 1987 300D has NEVER exhibited this problem, and my b-i-l's doesn't either.


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Old 01-12-2002, 11:18 PM
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On this old 84 Diesel Rabbit my family had there was a problem with the oil level sensor (on the Rabbit, it would make a really anoying buzzing noise to warn you of problems). We ended up disabling one of them but the noise was still there. Leading us to believe that there were 2 sensors, one tucked away in a remote part of the engine.


Could be the case with your Diesel.
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Old 01-13-2002, 01:34 AM
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I am not sure there is a lot of baffling in the oil pan, and I have this experience routinely when I get within about half a quart of having the sensor light up while running straight and level on my 1986 190E 2.3-16. I just assumed it was the oil sloshing to one side and then uncovering the sensor. When I get through the turn the light generally goes out, and when it comes on with the car going straight and level, I can make it go out by turning sharply to the right. I think the mounting hole is not directly in the center of the pan or something like that. Since the light goes out, I assumed the car was ok. I checked the level with the dip stick the first few times and when it was ok, I learned to ignore the light coming on during hard, or long, left turns. Jim
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Old 01-13-2002, 08:27 PM
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My 87 300D started doing this after I changed from dino oil to Mobil 1 recently. Only occurs with 'aggressive' cornering on left handers; my tech guy didn't seem concerned. He did say that the lamp lights up when the oil level is a litre or so down from full. I put it down to another MB quirk..cheers, Philip.
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Old 01-14-2002, 08:47 AM
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my '87 wagon has the same oil level light situation but only at 60 MPH and after about 30 min. driving. Can't figure it out, either
Steve
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Old 01-16-2002, 01:06 AM
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Talking PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

Hi all,

Marshall Booth, der Dieseling Doktor, over on the MBZ.org email list solved the problem. The sensor is fine, and the engine is fine. The instrument cluster is supposed to have a 60-second delay before turning on the light. The engine manual (which I didn't read before posting, my bad!) explains all of this, it was explicitly to prevent what I'm seeing right now. I need to fix the instrument cluster. Marshall suspects a failed electrolytic capacitor, and I agree. I'll have to tear it apart soon and see what I can find! Thought I'd pass the info along to anyone else who has a similar problem.
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