Daft W123 300D nut and bolts sizes
It is often said “they don't make 'em like they used to” - in the case of the W123 that's true. Working on these cars certainly gives me the feeling that I'm working on an old fashioned vehicle.
Take a look at this list of the daft sized nuts and bolts I've found on my 1981 300D – keep in mind that these are just standard hex head fasteners – I'm not talking about special tools... Here are the favourites Prop shaft 46mm and 41mm (Open end spanners) Flex disc bolts one side 17mm but the other 15mm??? (Why?) Fuel tank sender 46mm (You can just about get away with a spanner) Fuel tank drain / strainer 46mm (need a socket when tank is in situ unless you are lucky) Front crankshaft bolt OM616 / OM617 (27mm socket) Diesel injectors (Deep 27mm socket if you are lucky with the overflow pipes) Glow plugs – 20.8mm (this almost falls into the special tool category but seriously use a good quality adjustable spanner) Differential fill and drain plugs 14mm Allen key Pitman arm retaining nut 36mm Idler arm bolt and nut 24mm (Not really daft – but good to know) Oil cooler line union nuts 27mm Notable 12 points Big end nuts 14mm 12 point socket OM617 later type head bolts M12 12 point key Front shock absorber lower bolts 12mm 12 point socket Flywheel to crankshaft bolts 12mm 12 point socket My top 3 surprises:-
Having had to get all of this I can conclude not only is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes – there is also no such thing as a cheap tool kit to maintain your Mercedes! |
I notice you do not mention any SAE threads... a MB AC system will have some of those... ( at least here in the US ) ...
The worst case I have seen was my 1957 XK140 Jaguar... it had Whitworth ( English ) thrown in randomly with the metric and US threads with no way to spot them.. working on an old car with rusted and stuck nuts and bolts anyway... and then having some weird ones included... a great way to round off heads and have to go to ' a bigger hammer' often. |
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old Brit bikes like my BSA M20 used - BSWhit, BSFine, BSCy, BSPipe, and BAs threads, plus various 'bastard' left hand threads for odd bits like the petrol cap..... all on the same bike:D! |
Since when are the glowplugs 20.8mm? I've always removed them with a 14mm and a 7mm.....
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Flex disc bolts one side 17mm but the other 15mm??? (Why?)
Not the first time I've seen a nut bigger than the head of the bolt on the other side. Glow plugs – 20.8mm (this almost falls into the special tool category but seriously use a good quality adjustable spanner) 20.8mm ~13/16 = spark plug wrench. |
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http://www.startekinfo.de/etools/content/tool.jsp?toolno=617%20589%2000%2003%2000 |
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yup, as noted, the old big glow plugs use 13/16" socket.
and the newer head bolts are not 12 point keys... they are xzn TRIPPLE square keys... NOT the same as torx or 12point standard! |
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Quote: "Fuel tank drain / strainer 46mm (need a socket when tank is in situ unless you are lucky)"
The barb fitting that screws into the strainer is 19 mm. If you're lucky a 19 mm open end will get the 46 mm strainer off and not the 19 mm barb. |
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I used to own a Honda...the thing I liked best about that car was every bolt head had the size socket it needed stamped on top. If it said "10", you reached for a 10mm wrench, and so on. |
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...now that's not to say that my W123 is a pain in the backside - I'm the pain in the backside this time: I just can't stop taking it to bits and putting it back together again. |
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