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atikovi 03-29-2011 08:35 PM

Missing VIN plate on W123, where else is the serial #?
 
This is an '85 model and the VIN plate on the A-pillar is missing. It does have the plate in the door pillar and that matches the VIN on the title but most states need two places for the VIN. Where else would it be? It does have the data plate on the upper radiator support but that just has a bunch of random numbers.

compu_85 03-29-2011 09:14 PM

Isn't the serial number stamped into the firewall? It would start with 123.

Mark DiSilvestro 03-29-2011 09:19 PM

Typically, on '80s US-market Mercedes, the VIN is only on the door-jamb and windshield pillar. The chassis # stamped into the firewall won't match the US VIN.

Happy Motoring, Mark

Dieselkraut23 03-30-2011 12:35 AM

The fire number does match

bustedbenz 03-30-2011 01:20 AM

Bring it down here to NC; all you need is the VIN on the title, nobody ever even comes out to look at the car in person. In fact, when it's an individual-to-individual transaction, we just mail the title to Raleigh with notarized signatures and the new one with our name on it comes back a few weeks later.

tbomachines 03-30-2011 06:53 AM

Most states require a VIN verification if a car is purchased out of state. And you are also kind of screwed if a cop pulls you over and checks the VIN, as all cars are required to have a VIN visible to the public. This can be rectified by a state inspection place, they can often throw a sticker on the windshield in place of it.

atikovi 03-30-2011 08:00 AM

So is the VIN stamped into the firewall some place? An odd thing I saw was a decal on the door frame that this vehicle meets emissions requirements for the 1977 model year. This is supposed to be a 1985. What is up with that? Could someone have switched bodies?

vstech 03-30-2011 12:50 PM

... 1977? um could you put up some pictures of the sticker, the engine bay, the interior, the dash and a few other shots.
we'll critique the pics and tell you what we see.

vstech 03-30-2011 12:51 PM

the firewall stamping will be similar but NOT the same as the actual vin.
the first and the last numbers will match, but not the middle ones.

atikovi 03-30-2011 10:01 PM

OK I found the numbers on the firewall and they resemble those on the door pillar so I'm satisfied it's an '85 but what's with the last picture showing it conforms to 1977 model year regulations?

http://www.fototime.com/0ABFB0A8A2876C4/standard.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/C9E3173EEF6E0D9/standard.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/543566362A0FD8E/standard.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/4D4B47854BA2168/standard.jpg

okyoureabeast 03-30-2011 10:23 PM

That emission sticker looks lifted. My 85 says that my car conforms to all EPA requirements for model year 1985/

atikovi 03-30-2011 10:29 PM

So someone just stuck that on there to fool the emissions inspector?

vstech 03-30-2011 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okyoureabeast (Post 2690053)
That emission sticker looks lifted. My 85 says that my car conforms to all EPA requirements for model year 1985/

pretty hard to lift those stickers... more likely the front end was cut from another car, and the vin plate etc was riveted onto it.

atikovi 03-30-2011 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okyoureabeast (Post 2690053)
My 85 says that my car conforms to all EPA requirements for model year 1985/

What is the part number on your label?

compu_85 03-30-2011 10:43 PM

I wonder if someone stuck that on the car to try to sneak their cat delete through the emissions test :confused:


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